BHs, Blunts, in back quivers??

[Mr. fingers]

Hello tradgangers,
I've been playing around with a Creger back quiver. Working on the Hill / Schulz method I'm getting it down and having a blast. So I'm thinking I may try this set up for hunting.
My question is when caring BH arrows with blunts. How do you keep them separated in your back quiver. I know some use different colored Fletches  but I like not looking over my shoulder. I have a separator in the top of the quiver. But I don't like,the idea of the metel hex blunts touching my BH. Joe Skipp ( Hi Joe      )  Gave me some good advice at placing the blunts in first then BH arrows over them so for a second shot he always grabs a BH arrow.
Really curious on what everyone else does?
Thanks
Tim

[Homey88]

Someone on here suggested to me to keep my broadheads quiet to put a layer of cedar chip or pine needles in the bottom of the quiver. It keeps mine quiet it may keep your broadheads and blunts separated.

[Homey88]

Someone on here suggested to me to keep my broadheads quiet to put a layer of cedar chip or pine needles in the bottom of the quiver. It keeps mine quiet it may keep your broadheads and blunts separated.

[Homey88]

Sorry for the double post.

[OregonTom]

I made some loose fitting triangular broadhead covers.  I load the back quiver with three of those then put a couple bluts in next.  You kinda just have to tell which is which by feel.

[Mr. fingers]

Cedar Chips  or pine needles hmmm that's a good  idea I never thought of that. Maybe cedar bowes would work too.
And smell nice!
Tim

[Jakeemt]

Mr fingers. Go to the local leather shop and grab 3 things. A bag of scrap veg tanned leather, a grommet punch, and a locking stitch awl. Use that to make boots for your broad heads and place a grommet in the bottom of each one. Then run some paracord through the grommets to hold them all together. That way the stay sharp, stay together, and have just a little more resistance when you pull them so you can feel the difference.

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=39;t=000039

The whole article can be found online by searching for "a quiver to hunt with" a most excellent read!

[Recurve7]

Don't hold me to this....however, I read somewhere years ago that, I believe it was Howard Hill, put oats in his quiver to stop noise and protect his bh's.  What a mess though if it were to rain.  

[David Mitchell]

No doubt he used whole oats and not the oatmeal stuff.  

[Orion]

No rule against putting a divider in the bottom of your quiver as well.  Can use any number of natural materials to keep the heads from banging into each other and making noise.

I punch through about two inches down and about two inches in on high side and about three inches up and about two inches in on the bottom of the high side.  A back quiver will flatten in the middle. Leaving the majority of the volume for broadheads and the top or high side will have about a two inch round space for four or five blunts. I just use leather boot laces.  If you are walking fast enough or heavy enough to rattle broadheads after your quiver is broken in, you won't be getting much of chance to shoot anything anyway.

[woodchucker]

I'd go with what Joe Skipp told you.....  

Joe has used primarily a backquiver, for MANY decades!!! He told me the same thing, many years ago, and it's worked very well for me & my sons. Btw, If I have a backquiver question... I call Skipper & follow his advice. He's never steered me wrong!!!

I used to put the blunts in first, but the opportunities to shoot rabbits or a squirrel when stalking around for deer needed quick timing, no time to hunt over my shoulder and then feel around for a shorter blunt. A quick flip to rid myself of a broadhead arrow, then a quick draw to get the blunt on the string. With a top and bottom divider,  the broadheads can settle the way broadheads settle, without having to settle around the rounder and shorter blunts.

[Mr. fingers]

Paven: you kinda hit the nail on the head of what I was asking.
One of the mane reasons I like the idea of a back quiver is quick shots at squirrels rabbits etc... While doing a little roving from the deer stand without having to turn my head and fish around for an arrow.
Jakeemt: so how do you put your BH back in to the quiver without taking them all out to put it back in the little bootie?
Woodchucker: Joe Skipp is the reason I got the Creger. He has kinda been my mentor for using a back quiver I respect his opinions immensely. I was just curious what eveyone else does.
How do you all  draw a BH arrow out silently. I put aabout 4 BHs ans one blunt is yesterday and was practicing drawing them out and more time than not I would get the BH hanging up on the other shafts making that scraping sound. It wasn't as smooth as FPs that's for sure what am I missing?

[Pat B]

On some of my quivers(none are back quivers) I use a piece of cane to divide the quiver opening, half for broadheads, the other for others.

It makes a difference what kind of broadheads are in your quiver and if they are all the same, but I stack my broadheads in very carefully so things don't cross in the quiver, shift around or spin on the points. I make sure that all of the nock indexes are set so I can feel them with my thumb. If you want to make a lot of noise when jerking out an arrow toss in some four blade Herters, Deadheads, and two judo points. Those judo points will empty your quiver in no time. I know longbow shooters are suppose to like three to one heads, but for silent riding in the quiver and quiet extraction, Zwicky Eskimos are best.  If you have broadheads with holes like Hill broadheads, they should all be Hill heads or all Deadheads or all Herters.  Mixing up heads of different lengths can cause blade tangles.  Also, keep your arrows as short as you need. Extra long arrows require a grab down at the top of the quiver and additional motions.  When hunting deer and pheasants are in season, (in your case grouse) when still hunting have an arrow on the string that will do both jobs and your not so in love with it that you won't launch it at the pheasant. I call that arrow my shoot away. If I see the pheasant or rabbit first, I will switch to an old junker that is in the the top. It is possible to very carefully put an Escimo broadhead or two up top and not cut the divider. However, heads like Hill will snag the lace coming out if they are stored above the lace, while the back side slope of the Zwicky will slide by.  On that note, I have never snagged the leather lace in the bottom drawing out of the main compartment or cut it with a broadhead.
   I missed my pass through Eveleth this year, my wife developed a heel spur that forced us to cancel our canoe trip, maybe late August or early September.

[Mr. fingers]

I had Magnus stinger buzzcuts 2 blades not the head I planned on using this year I don't know if you remember one of my last posts on shortening my arrows and adding tip weight to keep them in spine  all that panned out and I was planning on getting some Zwickey Eskimo,glue,ons with a 75 gr. insert. I was just experimenting with the buzzcuts to see the difference drawing BHs to FPs. And I had one bludgeon tipped arrow. I have a 1 in. Piece of foam in the bottom I did not sink the BHs into it just the tip. I tried positioning the BHs so they would not cross. Problem for,me is when I reach back I don't always grab the one that is in the ideal position when I do it's pretty quiet. But if I grab the wrong one it's very noisy.

 I don't want to give up on hunting with my back quiver just yet but  I did a little demonstration for my wife yesterday I grabbed my bow quiver my back quiver and my arrowmaster. I would shoot grab a,second arrow and shoot again the arrowmaster won out on less motion and was quieter. The back quiver was faster but more motion and loudest. Bow quiver was in the middle as far as motion and was quieter her comment was it didn't look smooth.
Paven what part of Iowa are you from? My son lives in Waterloo we were planning on going there this summer but our schedules aren't lining up. Your probably one of the few tradgangers who's ever heard of Eveleth.
Tim