Tuning issue. and a brain fart.

[Dorado]

Ok, So I'm having a brain fart. I can't seem to get my Sage tuned.
It's 35# at my 29" draw length. I just weighed it to confirm. My arrows are GT Trad Blems from Big Jim's. They are 30.5" from valley of nock to BoP. I have 11.5gr inserts with 140gr points, well, 125gn points with 3 5gn washers. They are fletched with 3x4 shield cut right wing feathers.
I am right handed and all of my arrows seem to be hitting about 5" left of my point of aim at 10 yards. I have a near perfect vertical string about 1" wide. I have shot about 9 groups of three resting a minute between groups. I was not paying attention to aiming vertically just horizontally. And focusing only on lining up my string to the point and on the center of my target.
I've been trying to tune with BH. Do I raise my BH or lower it? For some reason I just can't remember. Or is the difference too great? Should I increase my point weight?
Just one of those days I can't seem to think.

[COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE]

What spine are the arrows?

[Dorado]

The arrows are 1535. Sorry I thought I put that in there.
Like I said. I'm having nothing but brain farts today.

[newhouse114]

Try a a 160-200 gr. point, maybe a little cant in the bow

[2bird]

Originally posted by Dorado:
Ok, So I'm having a brain fart. I can't seem to get my Sage tuned.
It's 35# at my 29" draw length. I just weighed it to confirm. My arrows are GT Trad Blems from Big Jim's. They are 30.5" from valley of nock to BoP. I have 11.5gr inserts with 140gr points, well, 125gn points with 3 5gn washers. They are fletched with 3x4 shield cut right wing feathers.
I am right handed and all of my arrows seem to be hitting about 5" left of my point of aim at 10 yards. I have a near perfect vertical string about 1" wide. I have shot about 9 groups of three resting a minute between groups. I was not paying attention to aiming vertically just horizontally. And focusing only on lining up my string to the point and on the center of my target.
I've been trying to tune with BH. Do I raise my BH or lower it? For some reason I just can't remember. Or is the difference too great? Should I increase my point weight?
Just one of those days I can't seem to think.

whats your BH now? increasing your BH will weaken your arrows which is what you want to do. Nock fit good? how much of a striker plate do you have right now or are you shooting from a elevated rest?

[Dorado]

Originally posted by 2bird:
whats your BH now? increasing your BH will weaken your arrows which is what you want to do. Nock fit good? how much of a striker plate do you have right now or are you shooting from a elevated rest? [/QB]

BH: 7.25"
Nocks are almost too loose. Very light fit just enough to hang on as long as I don't move the bow too much.
Stike plate is no more than 1/8" Bear Hair rug and strike plate I got from 3 rivers with a toothpick stuck between the plate and the bow.

If I need to increase BH to weaken arrow spine then I had that backwards. Don't know what my deal is today. I think I need to check and see if my underwear are inside my pants or out...    
I don't have any heavier heads other than my 225grs on my other bow and some 200gr ace hex head blunts. Would it hurt the hex heads if I shot them at a bag target?

[Dorado]

Originally posted by newhouse114:
Try a a 160-200 gr. point, maybe a little cant in the bow

I don't have any heavier heads other than some 225gr points and some 200gr ace hex head blunts.
I'm wondering if I could shoot those blunts at a bag target without damaging them.

[Smallwood]

2bird is correct...if your hitting left, you need to raise your bh to weaken the shaft spine.

[Dorado]

Well I think that raising the BH did the trick. I'm getting almost all of my arrows within 1.5" of the center line.
My BH has gone from 7.25" to 7.5". I'm going to go out again tomorrow as it's just gotten to hot for me to wear my back quiver.

Thanks everyone.

Smallwood, That's a nice bison you've got in your avatar. I hope that I can hunt one someday. If you don't mind me asking. What was your setup?

[Orion]

Do you have the toothpick on the shelf or behind the strike plate?  If it's behind the strike plate, remove it.  That will help accommodate a heavier spine.  Raising your brace height and a heavier point, as others have mentioned, should complete bring it into tune.

Can only do so much with brace height though.  It won't correct 5 inches of shooting left because of too stiff an arrow.  Brace height may move it an inch or less. removing the toothpick behind the side plate and heavier heads will show much more substantial results.

Try the 225s and see what happens.  Won't hurt the hex heads by shooting them into a bag, but will tear down the bag more quickly than field points.

[Dorado]

Originally posted by Orion:
Do you have the toothpick on the shelf or behind the strike plate?  If it's behind the strike plate, remove it.  That will help accommodate a heavier spine.  Raising your brace height and a heavier point, as others have mentioned, should complete bring it into tune.

Can only do so much with brace height though.  It won't correct 5 inches of shooting left because of too stiff an arrow.  Brace height may move it an inch or less. removing the toothpick behind the side plate and heavier heads will show much more substantial results.

Try the 225s and see what happens.  Won't hurt the hex heads by shooting them into a bag, but will tear down the bag more quickly than field points.

I have a toothpick behind both the shelf and the strike plate.
I adjusted my BH up .25" and it seemed to do what I was wanting it to do. I don't know if it was the bow or me. All the shots were fairly consistent in where they were hitting. I'm going to go out again tomorrow and see what happens.
I did find out that I need a new target. Arrow was poking out the back side.

[Mryan2176]

I would remove the toothpick as well the closer to center your arrows the better they will shoot if your overspined now. That little bit can make quite a bit of difference.

[Dorado]

Stupid rain. Bring stupid wind. stupid me can't practice.