Stumping with SGT small game point

[Nativestranger]

Was out stumping the other day with field points. Took an overly ambitious shot at a small twig. Missed it and literally had to spend 20 minutes uprooting 5 square foot of grass to find my arrow. So I am glad these VPA small game point arrived this week. Just took them out for a test shoot. I must say they work great as a stumping point. Flies true and will never bury in grass. They sure seem devastating to small game as well. Not that I have done it before but I don't think many small game will survive a hit with this point. Overall I think these are good alternative to Judo points. Got to be careful when shooting groups though. What do you guys use for a stumping point?
   

[slowbowjoe]

I still use Judo's for all my roving. I've been interested in the SGT's for a long time, but haven't tried any yet.

One thing I've found shooting Ace blunts, though, is that I seem to break more arrows with 'em when I hit a tree or stump that's kind of hard. My thinking is Judo's absorb more of the impact, due to the smaller tip and the spring arms.

I would go with the SGT's if I were hunting small game though, but haven't tried that yet.

[Nativestranger]

You are right. I have noticed more shock transmitted to the shaft when hitting hard objects with this sgt as well. The nocks popped off more often with this point when getting a solid hit on twigs. I haven't seen any splits on the ends of my gt carbon shaft yet. But I will have to be more careful with these points. How durable are the Judo point spring arms. Does it tend to accumulate dirt in spring area?

[Izzy]

I Shoot sgt's at stumps. I have lost a few squirrels too but they are a great head even though I prefer hex heads.

[Whitetail Addict]

I'm a big fan of Judo's for stumping/roving. I generally use old  broadheads for small game, unless I'm hunting over a dog.

Bob

[Gdpolk]

I like Judo points and RFA Talons the best.  As a guy that's primarily a small game hunter, I built my arrows around a 125gr screw in point specifically so I could use Judo's and RFA Talons for small game hunting.  I dropped a 100gr insert in them to up the weight for when deer/hog hunting (with other 125gr heads) and now I can shoot the same shaft/head weight for everything from bag practice to small game to medium game while using the two best heads for the type of shooting that I do 95% of the time.

 

[slowbowjoe]

The Judo's are extremely durable, In at least 5 years of shooting them, I;ve only broken one spring arm, and I think that may nave happened when I was digging one out of a stump. I still shoot that one, with three srmd, and it'd fine.

They do collrct dirt, but I clean it out easily brushing it on a twig, some grass, whatever. Never broke a point; did being one slightly once.

[Alfie]

Mostly stumping with judos, but a ordinary blunt with a washer works fine to.
Use steel blunts on my flu flus

[Archie]

I like the SGT's, RFA Talons, Judo Kondors, and traditional Judos.  I used to put washers behind steel blunts, but ended up with a lot of bent arrows.  I've made a few points out of miscellaneous nuts, bolts, screws, and washers, too, and they've worked... mostly.

[Airdale]

Slobowjoe got it right, Judo's are durable.  As an aside, any of you thinking about ordering some of the cheep made in China copies of the Judo save your money.  I ordered some and upon quick arrival gave them a try.  One wack on a solid stump and the spring set is ruined or missing.

[Birdbow]

I use and like the SGT heads, though I've found that on hard hits the shafts have split. I foot all my stumping arrows for that reason.
Have had mixed results on squirrels with them - body hits often allow them to escape into.

[Nativestranger]

The talon looks like a vicious point. Will give the judos a try next.

[Archie]

I second the warning against cheap Judo facsimiles.  They are junk.

[JimB]

I've got some small game arrows made up with 250 gr,glue on SGT's.The only game I've shot with them is a ground squirrel and a snowshoe hare.Both hits were absolutely devastating.The hare never even twitched.