I picked up a Martin Jaguar Elite recurve for an inexpensive back up. It is 50# at 28" and it measures right on with my scale. I am drawing 28". I had some Easton ST Epic 400's cut at 29.5" laying around from my compound days. I suspected they were going to be stiff and sure enough even with 200gr points they are showing stiff. They have 4" vanes. I'm thinking a 500 at 30" should get me in the ball park; does that seem reasonable? FWIW they actually grouped up very nicely; since susposedly they have their limb issues resolved and it actually was pleasant to shoot I'm thinking it will serve it's purpose pretty well.