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Offline CRM_95

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Minor setback
« on: December 28, 2015, 10:24:00 AM »
Ok, so I have been really busy at work and with the holidays and haven't had time to shoot much. I finally had a chance to shoot some the other day, and I think my nocking point was a little high. So I was going to move it, and i got a pair of pliers and just put a little pressure on the brass ring that serves as the nocking point and loosened it up. When I got it loosened up I saw that my string serving came undone. So I guess I had it on too tight to begin with or nicked it moving the nocking point. No big deal I ordered a new string this morning, $20 and a lesson learned. My question though is there a way to tell when the ring is tight enough without getting it too tight? And is there a better way to move it than having to force it back open with pliers?

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 10:31:00 AM »
That's the reason I haven't used crimp on nock locators for years.  I tie them on with a strand of B50.
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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 10:35:00 AM »
Yep.  Very easy for the squeeze on points to cut through the serving, even when they're put on right. That's why I use tie-on nocks as well, or masking tape wound on the string as nock sets.  It's more durable than one would think, and can be easily taken off and new tape wound on when it wears or when you want to change the nock point height.

Way back when I did use squeeze on nock sets, I opened them enough to move or remove with a thin screw driver. A nock-set pliers, with a rounded jaw indent to accommodate the nock set, also helps squeeze them on uniformly with not too much pressure.

BTW, if you haven't cut any of the main strands on your old string, it is salvageable.  Just reserve it.  Quite easy to do.

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 10:35:00 AM »
Others can offer comments on the brass nocking points as I don't use them but I thought I would mention there is the option of tying on a nock point with serving material or thick thread, if your interested.  

You can google this, or google adjustable whip knot / nock...

If your string was not damaged you only need to have it reserved.

Reserving is fairly easy and if your interested, 3rivers sells serving tools with a "how to" video, etc.

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 11:18:00 AM »
Im with David as also use old string for tiying on nocs
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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 11:19:00 AM »
Im with David as also use old string for tiying on nocs
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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 11:34:00 AM »
The newer nock point pliers that Black Widow sells has a way to remove the nocking points. I used to cut my serving when using screwdriver. The tool I bought works great but is no longer around.
Cutting my servings caused me to by a serving tool and a spool of material so I can do my own.

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2015, 12:19:00 PM »
Thanks for all the tips. I may use masking tape until I'm certain of where I want it. And my string isn't damaged, but I've already ordered a new one. I think I'll go ahead and get the serving tool and material too. I'll re serve my old string then I'll have a spare.

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2015, 12:32:00 PM »
Use a tie on nock point, and never deal with that issue again!

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2015, 03:40:00 PM »
I use tie on nocks. But with brass I have put them on with enough pressure so I can turn them up and down to tune. Once I find the sweet spot just a little more squeezing and it won't move or cut your string.

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2015, 04:45:00 PM »
I'm shooting again!! I found a video on Twisted Stave where Clay Hayes shows how to serve a string with monofilament line and makes a nocking point with string and super glue. I don't have a serving tool so I made a makeshift one with a pencil...it took some time but I'm flinging arrows!!

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2015, 05:16:00 PM »
I use dental floss. Dab on a little super glue. Ain't going nowhere.
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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2015, 09:24:00 PM »
Or use your brass nocking points and invest 20 bucks in a serving tool instead of a new strong. It doesn't take long to learn to use one.

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2015, 03:36:00 AM »
Yep - sounds like you had fun following Clay's video. Take the next step and learn how to twist up a flemish string for yourself.  A spool of a good FF material costs less than 3 strings (well 6, if you get two spools - two different colors). And you'll have enough to make about 30 strings. There are plans you can find on the internet for making a flemish twist string jig. I learned by following the video on youtube that was done by bearpaw. It will take some experimentation to get the string just the right length for your bow but once you have that figured out - you're all set and you'll have fun.  I like putting on some cool music and just start twisting away.  Good Luck!

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2015, 03:02:00 PM »
I've used brass forever and never had a problem.  I like them because I can loosen them and move them up and down the string for tuning and they last better than tied on.  Get the ones with the plastic insert in them, use the proper size for your string and use proper pliers and it'll never be a problem.

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Re: Minor setback
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2015, 08:34:00 PM »
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Originally posted by meatCKR:
Yep - sounds like you had fun following Clay's video. Take the next step and learn how to twist up a flemish string for yourself.  A spool of a good FF material costs less than 3 strings (well 6, if you get two spools - two different colors). And you'll have enough to make about 30 strings. There are plans you can find on the internet for making a flemish twist string jig. I learned by following the video on youtube that was done by bearpaw. It will take some experimentation to get the string just the right length for your bow but once you have that figured out - you're all set and you'll have fun.  I like putting on some cool music and just start twisting away.  Good Luck!

Steve
I may do that. It's cool being able to work on my own stuff with this recurve instead of running back and forth to the bow shop with my compound.

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