Axis 400s or 340s?

[J-dog]

55# bow, 28" draw - arrows I usually shoot are 400 axis cut 29.25" 200 grain VPAs

Ordering new dozen arrows, sticking with axis, but thought to get 340s though??? in keeping same specs what do yall hink? gonna stick with the VPAs @200 though I have shot up to 260 grain grizzlies, and 225 grain woodsmans.

Just general opinions, am I gonna be cool with spine of 340s or may have to add point weight. Just maybe get a few more grains in arrow weight is what I am looking for.

I dont pretend to understand the whole spine and point weight deal!

Thanks for the info, just dont change much and when I do I am pretty methodical about it!      

Thanks!

[bogeyrider63]

Need more info, type of bow? Is bow cut to center? past center? All factor's into play for arrow spine.

[acedoc]

At 31.5 inch draw and 53 lbs I found the 340 to be showing slightly weak spine with 125 grain heads.

[Doc Nock]

As Bogey pointed out, there are MANY factors that affect flight and performance...

It's a simple machine, but it has a lot of nuances in a stick bow. Some over complicate and some over simplify.

Good luck... testing i s the only sure way to tell...and it's as much the Injun behind the bow as the bow, arrow, string, silencer placement, center cut of riser, arrow nock fit on string, etc, etc, etc...

[Orion]

I don't think yo will need the 340s.  I shoot can shoot .400s with 300 grains total up front out of 52-53# high performance hybrids, even out of my 50# Bear td.  

.340s are only .5 gpi heavier than .400s, so you'll only add about 10 grains total arrow weight by switching shafts.  Can easily add more weight than that in point/insert/adaptor weight. Can probably add at least another 25 to 50 grains in point weight to your existing shafts.  You already have .400s so why not try it and see how it works before you order.

[silent sniper]

I shot 30.5" axis 340s with 200 grain point out of my super Kodiak, 55@28 with 30" draw length.

Those arrows also bare shaft perfectly out of my bigfoot sasquatch 56@30.

I shoot 31" axis 400s with 200 grain points out of my 51@30 timberhawk.

I generally use 400s up to mid 50#s and 340s up from there. Hope it helps, SS

[CoachBGriff]

340's bareshaft perfectly me out of my 55# @ 28 Dorado.

I have a 29 in. draw, and I have 225 grains up front.

I put a similar setup through a 55# PCH, and they flew true.

[JR Williams]

340s bare shafted perfect for me out of a 55# moab. Cut to 29.5 with 200 grains up front and 50 grain inserts. Wanted to shoot 265 up front but ran out of length so I had to drop point weight.

So I think you will be fine but everyone is different. Would recommend you find a place to buy single shafts, or at least a test kit to make sure it tunes out like you want b fore you invest 130 bucks or so for a dozen.

[meatCKR]

One thing you might want to consider is using the aluminum carbon collars that 3Rivers sells as a footing on your .400 Axis Trads.  That would have the affect of strengthening spine a little and makes the tip of that arrow very tough.  I bought the F size for my .400 Axis Trads.  Shot one over my target the other week and directly into a rock. Field point bent off to the right by 5 degrees but the tip of the arrow was fine.  Did a thorough bend test check, put on another field point and back in the quiver like nothing happened.  I was amazed.

Steve

[J-dog]

Sorry y'all, recurve silver tip - my 400s with 300 up front get squirrelly - thought the 340s would tote more grains up front better?

[Orion]

J-Dog.  Initially you said you had 200 grains up front.  That's why I suggested you could go up 25-50 grains ion point weight and it would probably work with a .400.  Didn't know you wanted to go up to 300 grains.  For that, you probably will need 340s.

[pdk25]

Surprised at some of the results that are being posted, because I am finding that I need lighter spined arrows for similar, and slightly heavier weight bows that are being listed, even with shelves that are cut pretty far past center.  Different for everyone, I guess. Good luck.

[J-dog]

Orion, my normal is 200 I tried 300 and saw it wouldn't work, but yes my norm is 200 and want to stay with that.dont mean to confruse.

I just thought the 340 is a stiffer shaft that CAN carry more grains up front.

[katman]

If your shooting your 400's with the stock aluminum insert change it out for the brass insert, keep your 200gr point and build your strike plate out a little to tune.

The 340 may work full length but will probably need more point/insert weight.

How are you tuning now?

[Bill Carlsen]

I shoot  54# and use 400 Axis shafts. I came across some FMJ 400's and fletched them up. They are 50 grains heavier than a carbon only Axis. My arrows are 29" and 200 grain Razorcap bhs shoot perfectly from my bow. I guess what I am trying to say is that if you want some additional weight and are happy with the 400 Axis get a couple of 400 FMJs and see what you think. I can shoot 340's but need extra weight up front.

[Biathlonman]

I've got one Toelke that loves stiff shafts.  W
It will shoot a 30" Gold Tip 5575 at 30" with 200 grain point for about 530 grains or a 30.5" ICS bowhunter with 300 up front for about 630 grains.  Don't be afraid of the .340 if that's what your bow is telling you it wants.

[J-dog]

Thanks y'all! Appreciate the help

[JARHEAD1371]

I shoot the .340s out of my ACS longbow with 200 grs up front, 29.5" length, 28" draw, and 50#@28". I believe form also plays a part in shaft selection, I've always had to shoot heavier spine than most people. I broke my hand as a teen-ager and I think that had effected my release as well.

[J-dog]

Yeah I think form plays alot in arrow flight, bad release ect...

Know I am not perfect but do alright. I can really tell when I goof. Literally see the arrow do a weird maneuver on way to target! --