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Author Topic: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...  (Read 847 times)

Offline Bud B.

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Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« on: March 21, 2016, 01:09:00 PM »
I have a LH Centennial built by Craig Ekin in 1999. 71@27. I can push pull string it, but that's mainly due to not having a stringer that'll work well on ASLs, especially this one. I don't want to bust a gut, literally, by trying to keep stringing it this way. The stringers I have are mainly recurve stringers and they slip under the heavier weight. I can use them on my lighter ASLs.

What say you. I perfer using a sponsor when getting the right one, so sponsors, if you see this, please chime in if you have one that'll work.

The upper limb tip extends about 1" past the string grooves. Does one style exist that'll tuck safely over the upper tip to allow the string to make it cleanly to the grooves?
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2016, 01:17:00 PM »
I think you would be happy with a Web-Ster stringer...I got mine with my ACS CX bow from A and H Archery

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2016, 01:54:00 PM »
Love my Webster stringer. Got mine from Braveheart Archery.
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2016, 02:03:00 PM »
Hi Bud - I should have a 66" Centennial coming to me in the mail today.  I have the selway longbow stringer - the one with the rubber pad for the upper limb and a cordura cup on the lower limb. That stringer works good for me on 64" Wesley special so I will try it on the Centennial tonight and let you know how it goes.  I have never had an issue with the selway stringer as long as I get that rubber pad straight and centered on the upper limb.

The Centennial I have coming is not as strong as yours - this one is 60# at 28" but I am guessing it will do the job.

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2016, 03:43:00 PM »
Yep.  The Webster is all I use for longbows and recurves.  Has an extra pocket on one end so it fits just about any size tip.

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2016, 04:15:00 PM »
I really like the thunderhorn stringer.  So much so in fact, i bought 3 of them, just in case;)
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2016, 04:27:00 PM »
When I had my 70" super heavy bows, I used to bottom tip cup and  a loop of charred that was fatter than the bowstring.    Put the fatter loop on the string grooves, pull it the bow up and push the bowstring against the fatter loop.  The bowstring with a bit of pressure will push the fatter loop out of the string grooves and tenth bowstring seats itself into the string grooves as the pressure is let down.  That is how Bob Swinehart loaded his heavy bow.   You can get the limb pad kind to work if it is long enough to gain the leverage, sometimes by put two feet on the stringer, and then lick the stringer pad to give it some temporary traction to keep it from slipping.  The stringers that Dick Robertson sells work for many smaller tipped longbows.

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2016, 05:18:00 PM »
Well. after posting my cogs got to turning. I can make a stringer for recurves and regular longbows easily enough. With the 1" long upper tip, I concocted a design. I built a sturdy but tiny cup and made it to hold the string (paracord) of the stringer just past where the string grooves on the limb are located. I just finished it and tested it twice. So far no hiccups, but with 70lbs of explosive pressure waiting to clock me, I am cautiously optimistic about moving forward with it.

I'm a tinker at heart. Always thinking of how to do things, and make things to do other things. I used two feet on it when stringing the heavy Hill bow.

Bottom limb cup.

   

Upper limb cup.

   

Will check out the Webster.

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2016, 05:25:00 PM »
That should work just fine as long as the paracord is rated to hold the load.

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2016, 05:53:00 PM »
Oh yeah. 550lbs, if I recall correctly. Maybe more. This is my go-to cord for stringers from an Army supply store near me. It had the rating on the spool. Buy it by the foot or in 100ft pre-measured bundles.

Strung it up again and shot maybe 40 arrows thru it. I'm done. No more shooting today.
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2016, 06:59:00 PM »
I vote against webster.
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2016, 07:10:00 PM »
Bud I use the Webster and I like it so much it is the only one I carry. I string bows up to 105# with mine and have been using it for years without issue.

If you want one the cost is $16 and I will cover the shipping to you for a fellow Trad Ganger. Just let me know if you want it.

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2016, 07:30:00 PM »
Sounds good. I'll pm you. This one seems to be doing well, but a backup is always good.

Did some reading on the Webster. More good than bad.
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2016, 09:28:00 PM »
Bud - I received my Centennial today - First off, Man! What a bow! Second, I was able to string it and un-string it pretty easily with the selway longbow stringer I have.  Not sure if there is a weight limit on the selway but this one I have handled the 60@28 with no problem.  And it does feel every bit of 60@28.  Can't imaging what your 74@28 must feel like.  But these Centennials are something else!
That Webster stringer sounds good though.  Best of Luck to you with your Centennial!

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2016, 09:35:00 PM »
Shooting it today made me name it "The Beast".

MeatCKR,

I am sure I am drawing mine to only about 26 right now but it is stout enough my third finger is tingly. It is a brute! But the quality of the bow is phenominal. The limbs are deep and narrow.
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2016, 07:13:00 PM »
I know what ya mean Bud, I got my own "Beast" a couple weeks ago. I've shot 55-60 @ 29" for years, but when a LH Yew Pete George comes by 64 @ 28 is.....well..close enough. Must be 67-68 at 29. Went out and shot 30-40 good arrows out of it today for the first time, been exercising and drawing it a little at a time since I got it.

I can push/pull my 60# sitting in a chair, but this one makes me WORK!

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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2016, 09:57:00 PM »
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2016, 08:17:00 AM »
Webster! Just started using it on my 75# Hill, and love it! Best stringer I've used on it.
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2016, 09:16:00 AM »
Got my Webster Monday from Simply Traditional put it to the test on my 100lbs bow (which by the way has slap me across the forehead). And I felt totally confident in the holding power of the Webster to hold the bow.
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Re: Heavier Hill Style Shooters...
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2016, 12:03:00 PM »
There are going to be pros and cons to every type of stringer. I find the two-cup more difficult to use than the cup-pad type, but that's just me. Somebody earlier mentioned using 2 feet if necessary on the cup-pad type. To my way of thinking, that is the only right way to use it. By having your feet spread and the string its original full length, the downward pressure on the pad is almost straight down, so it doesn't tend to slide back toward the riser.

I always string my recurves using a stringer, but use push-pull for my longbows just because I can. For what it's worth, I just tried stringing my 68" Two Tracks Echo with the cup-pad type stringer and it worked great. I'll grant you it's a light bow (maybe 60% of the weight you're talking Bud), but again, the pressure is pretty much straight down on the upper (and lower) limb, so there is no tendency to slip.
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