3Rivers Archery



The Trad Gang Digital Market













Contribute to Trad Gang and Access the Classifieds!

Become a Trad Gang Sponsor!

Traditional Archery for Bowhunters






LEFT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS TRAD GANG CLASSIFIEDS ACCESS RIGHT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS


Author Topic: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/  (Read 541 times)

Offline aim small...release

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 590
Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« on: April 12, 2016, 12:30:00 PM »
Just wondering if anyone uses 100gr bh I see most people using heavy bh but the 100-125angle are easy to come by in store. I need 200 up front but cant get any 75gr inserts right now just 100. I was looking at Muzzy phantom 100gr head. Thanks for any info.
Take a deep breath and pick a spot

Offline mark land

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 719
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2016, 12:57:00 PM »
Yep everyday and have for a few years now after I had to drop 25grs of tip weight for a faster bow to spine my arrows correctly.  Currently shooting the Phantom 100, Phantom SC and MX-4 heads off my Hoyt Buffalo.
They'll be no quitters till we bag us some critters!

Offline Bladepeek

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3318
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2016, 02:03:00 PM »
Brandon, I realize this is not an answer to your original post, but personally I'd rather have the larger, heavier point. Lost Nation gives a $1 rebate on postage for Michigan shipments and they ship fast. Not as nice as being able to walk into the local Trad Shop (they folded last year) but still a good, local source.
60" Bear Super K LH 40#@28
69" Matt Meacham LH 42@28
66" Swift Wing LH 35@28
54" Java Man Elk Heart LH 43@28
62"/58" RER LXR LH 44/40@28

Online Buckeye1977

  • Contributing Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ****
  • Posts: 794
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 02:12:00 PM »
I'm gonna try 100 grain brass inserts with muzzy 3 blade 100's for turkey this year. They seem to shoot really well out of my recurve.
Nick

PBS Associate member
JD Berry Viper 62” 50@28

Offline tracker12

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1796
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 02:30:00 PM »
I use a 31" Easton FMJ with 75 grain brass insert and 125 grain head.  I hunt with a bow at around #45 and to keep my arrow around 500 grains I need a light head.  When I hunted with a light weight carbon I used heavier heads.  Both worked well I just prefer the FMJ.
T ZZZZ

Offline Sirius Black

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1404
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2016, 06:21:00 PM »
I haven't tried broadheads yet, but I'm shooting some arrows with a 100gr insert/100gr point, they tune just fine.
Wisconsin Bowhunters Association - Life Member

Offline FAV 52

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 124
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2016, 08:08:00 PM »
I have been shooting Easton Tribute 2016's 100gr insert but 125gr points works for me;haven't had any complaints from the customers I've taken .

Offline olddogrib

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1365
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2016, 08:13:00 PM »
I'm sure folks do and it will be fine in the right set-up, but for what it's worth, IMHO it will not be equivalent to a 200 gr. head with a standard aluminum insert.  My experience is that long heavy inserts internally stiffen the shaft like a footing...your mileage may vary.
"Wakan Tanka
 Wakan Tanka
 Pilamaya
 Wichoni heh"

Offline WESTBROOK

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3385
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2016, 08:14:00 PM »
I'd rather just use a standard insert and a big stout 185-200g BH

Online Basinboy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1851
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2016, 09:02:00 PM »
I'm shooting 100gr brass inserts with 150gr Magnus stingers. I've killed big hogs and elk with no issues
Primal Tech Longbow 42#@26” 62” amo
Palmer Longbow 43#@26" 62" amo
Zona T/D Recurve 48@26" 58" amo
Osage Selfbow 38#@26” 64” amo

PBS Associate Member
Compton Member

Offline ThePushArchery

  • Tradbowhunter
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *
  • Posts: 976
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2016, 12:23:00 PM »
I would agree. Lighter heads with brass insert combinations aren't as strong structurally than a heavier head and standard insert.

The failure modes of a light head impede penetration upon impact of bone on the shots that may be off target a bit. (curled tip, bend aluminum ferrules, bent or chipped blade edges)

The construction of a heavier head by nature to become heavier naturally mitigates some of those failure modes seen in the lighter broadheads. (Full steel ferrules / Thicker blade widths)

With the traditional market where it is today with the endless options for heavier heads, I don't see a need to use a sub-150 gn broadhead if I am targeting 200 - 300 grains up front. (VPA, Simmons, Tuffhead, etc etc are some of the highest quality heads on the market and tailor their offerings to heavy, bomb-proof, traditional heads)

If I were to have my eye on a lighter head that really tickled my fancy, I'd buy the glue-on version and mount it to a 100gn steel ferrule, and run it with a standard insert rather than buy the screw-in version that most likely would come on an aluminum ferrule. At least I am mitigating one failure mode (ferrule integrity).

My $0.02

Offline old_goat2

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 2387
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2016, 02:11:00 PM »
All the time, and that's a setup I really like for practicing because 100gr field tips don't bend as easy as 200gr field tips and are less expensive.
David Achatz
CPO USN Ret.
Various bows, but if you see me shooting, it's probably a Toelke in my hand!

Offline WESTBROOK

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3385
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2016, 12:25:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by old_goat2:
All the time, and that's a setup I really like for practicing because 100gr field tips don't bend as easy as 200gr field tips and are less expensive.
What the heck are you shooting at?

Offline KyRidgeRunner

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 432
Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2016, 09:30:00 PM »
I do.  I shoot 200-225 grains up front.  So 1/2 of my arrows have 100 grain inserts the other half have regular.  I use the half with 100 grain inserts when I want to use a bullhead, a thunder head, judo point, stinger, etc.  I use the ones with regular insert when I want to run a heavy head up front I.e. Magnus 1 with steel screw in adaptor or a heavy one piece 3 blade.

Users currently browsing this topic:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
 

Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement

Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©