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Author Topic: Whip grip problem  (Read 559 times)

Offline BRITTMAN

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Whip grip problem
« on: April 13, 2016, 06:23:00 PM »
I  bought a new Tolke Whip a week ago and for the life of me I can not shoot the bow good due to the grip . It's the thumb rest model with the deep locator which looks and feels awesome until I draw it back . For those that shoot whips does this bow require a higher grip more like a recurve .? I normally shoot a lower wrist grip like on a Mohawk or a Shrew but this bow does not like that type of grip at all . How do you Guys grip your Whip ?
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Offline neargeezer

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2016, 07:04:00 PM »
For me, I grip the bow with all finger around the riser, then the thumb loosely on top of the index and middle fingers. I shoot with a relaxed grip.

If I put my thumb on the thumb rest, I have problems.

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2016, 07:27:00 PM »
Try drawing the bow with a very relaxed "grip". Let it settle naturally, then grip it lightly as it dictates. I find it sort of a medium grip-likes the web of thumb and hand primarily, but also the rest of thee hand to stabilize it.

Not my bow, but I borrow my wife's occasionally.  every day whip shooters may add more.

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2016, 07:38:00 PM »
I think the throat of the grip is to narrow for me . The throat of the dished grip being narrow presses to hard into the Web of my hand and makes my thumb cramp . May have to get some tennis wrap.
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2016, 07:45:00 PM »
Although I've never shot a Whip, I have shot the Toelke Super D and Lynx. I've found that the best way to shoot the Toelke grips (or any other grip for that matter) is to accept the grip in the web of your hand and let the grip define your hand. If you heel it, you'll have high shots. If you grip the riser... Just let the grip define you hand position.

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2016, 07:51:00 PM »
I draw with an open hand and once I reach full draw I lightly close my hand keeping it very relaxed. I try not to grab the bow when I release... If I don't, the result is usually a good shot

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2016, 07:52:00 PM »
I draw with an open hand and once I reach full draw I lightly close my hand keeping it very relaxed. I try not to grab the bow when I release... If I don't, the result is usually a good shot

Offline tzolk

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2016, 10:38:00 PM »
Whips are not meant to be high wristed. Medium to low. Let it settle into your mid to lower palm with a very light grip from the top fingers.
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2016, 08:03:00 AM »
Yep, low wrist with pressure on heel of thumb.

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2016, 03:22:00 PM »
I always let the my draw pull the grip into my hand.  On my whip, and new Kestrel my thumb is laying across the top of the locator.  The draw pulls the bow into my palm.  I try to keep my grip just tight enough to prevent the bow from leaving my hand on release.  I do not notice a large amount of pressure on my thumb, most is riding lower in my palm.
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2016, 08:46:00 PM »
It's a very nice bow , Zercote riser with Tiger Myrtle vanners with bamboo core , 64 in. Long and 48 lbs @ 28in. It's really perfect all the way around but I just don't shoot it good . I'm going to give it a while longer but if it doesn't fit me I'll have to trade it for something I can do shoot good.  It's not the bows fault at all it just doesn't fit me for some reason.
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2016, 02:40:00 PM »
Just get you some black tennis wrap and you will be good. The grip is designed for the pressure to be on the pad of your hand under the thumb. I grip it by putting my fingers in the front of the bow, and it is the best bow I have shot to this point. Here is my grip. I thought about a beaver grip, but like the ability to replace it so cheap, and my whip is a takedown to I wrap it so I can still take the bow down.

 

 
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2016, 05:00:00 PM »
I talked to Dan about it , he told me to send it back and he would put a beaver grip on it for me to make it a fuller grip . His customer service is 2nd to none .
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2016, 07:31:00 PM »
Dan is the best!

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2016, 10:58:00 PM »
Dan and Jared are exemplary human beings. Having a small business like theirs which caters to its customers nuances can be very challenging. I'm sure there are times when they eat a profit to satisfy a new or returning customer. It's a tough business and they produce excellent bows and do it with phenomenal production times. Not to mention the best Trad bow inventory running!
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2016, 08:03:00 AM »
I have tought about the beaver grip myself using the tennis wrap for now. How long does it last, and does the beaver grip get slick in sweaty conditions, or pick up any oder from sweating?
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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2016, 09:43:00 AM »
Toelke customer service is excellent

Offline lone hunter

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2016, 10:39:00 AM »
Picked up a couple whips last week that I had Dan fuss with a little for me. He was pretty adamant about not taking any money for his work. Knew he was going to be like that so I took some sweet pastry along with me. While he was occupied with the sweets, I was able to quickly write a check and sneak out the door.
Heck of a deal when you have to trick your bowyer into taking money for their work.

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Re: Whip grip problem
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2016, 12:11:00 PM »
Blessed one he has beaver but he said he also had some thick soft leather that would make the grip a little fuller and softer for my hand . I have tendinitis in my hand so I think I'm going to do it. Smallish grips always make may thumb hurt due to the pressure on my thumb pad.
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