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Gold Tip Trad 600s......for hunting?

Started by tomsm44, April 22, 2016, 09:32:00 PM

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tomsm44

I ask because I got some as part of a trade.  I picked up a 42# Hoots recurve and it came with a dozen GT Trad 600s; one with insert and feathers, one with insert only, and the rest with nocks only.  I shot them on the bow they came with and they are way weak, even with 100 gr points.  I was going to cut them and see what happened, but the next day my wife picked up a dozen Carbon Express Predator 4560s at a yard sale cut to 28" and fletched with what looks like brand new feathers.  I stripped the feathers from one and tried it this evening and it flies like a dart with 125 and 135 field points off the new bow.  Around 420-430 total weight, so I'm good now for that bow.  Since I have a dozen new arrows, I decided to try them on another bow.  It's a 47# r/d longbow and arrows usually shoot a little stiffer off of it.  The Trad 600s bare shafted pretty decent on it with just 100 gr up front, but the total weight is only around 380.  If I cut them a little at a time, how much point weight could I expect to gain without going below 28"?  At 28" and 150 gr up front, I'd be around 410-420 total.  I got the Hoots that they came for my wife and she hasn't shot it yet.  I'm thinking her shorter draw length and maybe trimming a little length will be about right for the recurve with a 100 gr point.   If I can get them tuned for her, it won't matter about the weight because she doesn't plan to hunt with it.  I'm just curious if it'd be a decent hunting setup if I could just swap point weights and shoot them on one of my bows.  Maybe I'm overthinking the whole thing, but arrows are expensive, and when I get a deal like this, I can't help wanting to use them.

Matt
Matt Toms

Flatwoods Custom R/D:  64", 47@28
'66 Kodiak: 60", 55@28
Redwing Hunter:  58", 53@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 47@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 42@28
Hoots Recurve:  56", 42@28

Biathlonman

Cut an inch off them and you could probably get away with about 200 grains up front.

fling

Tomsm44, a fellow member Basin boy from your neck of the woods(La) is shooting 600 spine arrows out of is 47# Palmer longbow and he has a lot of game to show for. Maybe he'll chime in. Great guy and a great shot.

Crested Finger

I shoot 600s out of my 45 pound bow with 200 grains up front cut down to 29 inches
Feathers are friends!

Longbow58

Full length 225 up front 43# Bear Alaskan, fly awesome.

tomsm44

Thanks guys.  Sounds like you guys are typically cutting them down and using heavy broadheads.  My main concern was the light overall weight with the 100 gr points they tune with at the full 30" length.  Haven't used this light of a spine before, so I wasn't sure how much I could get my point weight up with just cutting an inch or so off.  A 200 gr point at 29" would put me right around 10 gpp if I can get that to tune.  I may cut them down to 29" and see how they do.  Maybe I can find a length where I can shoot them on my longbow with around 200-250 gr points and my wife can shoot them with around 100-125 gr points on the little Hoots recurve they came with.
Matt Toms

Flatwoods Custom R/D:  64", 47@28
'66 Kodiak: 60", 55@28
Redwing Hunter:  58", 53@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 47@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 42@28
Hoots Recurve:  56", 42@28

BWD

I shoot them out of a Kanati I only draw about 39lbs on. 28 5/8" bop to von, with 225gr points/broadheads.
"If I had tried a little harder and practiced a little more, by now I could have been average"...Me

Matty

QuoteOriginally posted by Longbow58:
Full length 225 up front 43# Bear Alaskan, fly awesome.
I agree with this. And the last post. I have a few bows in the mid to high 40s and they fly incredible out of them. I do 225 up front. Would be fine on deer sized game and black bear! Good luck


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