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Author Topic: Split finger and even tiller  (Read 367 times)

Offline Pat Ct

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Split finger and even tiller
« on: May 03, 2016, 04:56:00 PM »
I know a bow tillered for split finger will require a higher nocking point than usual for 3U, but does it change much to have a bow tillered even and shot split?

Mostly referring to any issues with limb timing and noise. Just wondering so thanks for any reply! Pat

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 05:10:00 PM »
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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 05:13:00 PM »
Bows tillered for 3U are usually even tiller and work fine with split.  In fact, I like to tiller all limbs even unless the customer asks for something different.

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 05:22:00 PM »
Jack Kempf tillered my bow even (all his bows are unless otherwise requested) and I shoot it split. I find split requires a LOWER nock point, not higher. I've shot 3 under in the past and always found a higher nock point best.

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 06:05:00 PM »
The theory is that an even tiller does not need to be raised as much as for example the 1/8" tiller.  One shooter here shoots three under and found that he still had to raise it more than he liked with his new even tiller bow.  It irritated him to see the arrow pointing downward.  I offered a feather rest that put the arrow virtually level.  His gun barrel aim improved, his arrow flight improved, his accuracy improved and most important, he quit bitching about his arrow pointing downward.

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 06:54:00 PM »
The reason I ask is that on a 3/16" or even 1/8" positive tiller bow, the braced profile is noticeably asymmetrical the shorter the bow, and while I know it's more about the limb timing upon pull and release, if the difference in noise is negligible I prefer a perfectly aligned braced profile as long as the limbs open up evenly shooting split. I hope this makes sense... Cheers!

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 10:47:00 PM »
All of my bows are tillered even (upon my request), and I shoot split finger. My bows are plenty quiet, and I seem to shoot better with them that way.

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 04:20:00 PM »
The mechanics would indicate that a lower nicking point would be used if shooting split with an even tiller to get some power into the lower limb.  With a longbow, I cannot tell the difference, all of my bows are less than an eighth up to one eighth up from level.   We had a shorter recurve that was really asymmetric an older Darton.  That bow required a higher than normal nocking point.  It was with that bow that I discovered the advantages of the 3rivers feather rests.  My  wife shot it split, even though the nocking point insisted on being in that three under range above level.   With a shorter recurve, a lot will depend on how blocked and rigid the release fingers are on the string.  some, like me tend to shoot with the fingers hard, while others tend to taper the release fingers more.

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 05:13:00 PM »
I tiller all my bows dead even unless otherwise requested. Sometimes an individual bow will need to have up to an eighth positive but very seldom.

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2016, 09:29:00 AM »
Please explain...Even to 1/8 positive.  I know you have to elevate the nock set for 3 under but when the bow is made, what is done to make it even or 1/8 positive?  Is there something done to the limbs in manufacturing?

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Re: Split finger and even tiller
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2016, 10:32:00 AM »
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The theory is that an even tiller does not need to be raised as much as for example the 1/8" tiller.  One shooter here shoots three under and found that he still had to raise it more than he liked with his new even tiller bow.  It irritated him to see the arrow pointing downward.  I offered a feather rest that put the arrow virtually level.  His gun barrel aim improved, his arrow flight improved, his accuracy improved and most important, he quit bitching about his arrow pointing downward.
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