Bow Bullets

[tomsm44]

Not talking about what you may think.  I'm curious about the old Hoyt/Easton Bow Bullet broadheads.  A guy I work with heard me talking about hunting with fairly heavy heads on my recurve a while back and mentioned that he had a pack of unused Hoyt broadheads that he thought were around 145-150 grains.  Somebody gave them to him 20-30 years ago, but they were heavier than he liked so he never used them. He said that they were 4 blade cut on contact heads and he'd give them to me if he could find them.  I looked online, and the 145 bow bullets are the only thing that looks close to what he described.  My question is this.  Have any of you used them on recurves, and if so, what did you think?  Noise?  Performance?  The bleeder blades look to be the full cutting diameter of the main blades and I'm curious how that would affect penetration versus a 2 blade.  I have a 55# Kodiak that shoots 150 grains well, and a 42# (very fast for a 42#,) that shoots 135-145 well also.  Here's a picture I found online.  The one on the bottom right in the main picture.

 

[monterey]

I used those one year.  I found it hard to get good flight with them, but that doesn't reflect on the broadhead so much as me.  They did tune up nicely in a two blade configuration.  The "bleeder blades" are actually full thickness blades equal to the main blades in thickness.  I don't know what they weighed as a two blade.  They sharpen up very well and since they can be broken down there is none of the problems that (at least I) have with sharpening a true 4 blade.  Perfect candidate for a KME type sharpener.

Don't remember what they weighed, but 145 seems about right.

Only you can ask and answer for yourself the 2 blade vs 3 blade vs 4 blade questions.  I ll only say that it would take a heavier bow and arrow combo to get good penetration.

They came with a proprietary wrench for assembly.  It needs to have a longer than usual reach to get to the inside blade.  They also came with a small amount of Loctite with each package.  I just came across onion the wrenches the other day while throwing stuff out.  I might still have it in the wastebasket if you want it.

Anyway, free is free so what's to lose by playing around with them, eh?

[tomsm44]

Thanks Monterey.  I know a lot of people shoot 4 blades like the Muzzy Phantoms and Magnus Stingers, but Like you, I'm thinking the full size bleeders on these would affect penetration more than the low profile bleeders on most heads.  I would probably stick to my 135 gr two blades on the smaller bow and use these on my 55# Kodiak.  The setup I have worked up for it is using a 10.2 gr/inch carbon with full length para cord inside to add weight and a 150 gr head.  I haven't actually weighed them, but adding up component weights, they should be around 600 gr total.  I think these would do fine on that setup, but I still like to learn from others experiences when it comes to taking an animal's life.  I don't want to learn in the field the hard way that they don't perform well.  If nothing else, I might keep one in my quiver in case a coyote or bobcat gets close enough for a shot.  It's probably be outstanding for that size animal.  I've also seen full replacement blade 10 pack sets for sale online for somewhat reasonable prices.  I could get a pack of those and shoot them a long time if they work out.

[pinky]

I had these on 2216s to use with my Hatfield RC. I liked the way they flew but never had an opportunity to put them to use in the field.

 
 

These have been stashed in an archery tackle box for a few years, 15 at least.

[ranger 3]

I think I have some somewhere

[monterey]

I'll add that I never loosed one at an animal so am no help on that score.

If your setup is well tuned, and that head is as sharp as it should be, I would bet my bottom dollar that you would have no issues using it from your 55# bow!

Bisch

[Charlie Lamb]

Same as Bisch!

[highlow]

$17.50! How times have changed.

[Bow Bum]

Originally posted by highlow:
$17.50! How times have changed.

LOL that's what I was thinkin!

[Mohawkbows]

I used them when they first came out, shooting a Bear TD and aluminum arrows. Pretty durable blades for a replaceable. Worked well for me on deer, elk and antelope. At the time I couldn't sharpen Zwickey's or Bears good enough to use them.

[tomsm44]

Originally posted by Mohawkbows:
I used them when they first came out, shooting a Bear TD and aluminum arrows. Pretty durable blades for a replaceable. Worked well for me on deer, elk and antelope. At the time I couldn't sharpen Zwickey's or Bears good enough to use them.

Thanks.  That's exactly the insight I was looking for.  Just out of curiosity, do you recall roughly what draw weight you were shooting at the time?

[Mohawkbows]

The Bear was 60# and I also used a 65# Howatt hunter, pulling 27" and using 2216's and 2117's. Wish I had that Bear bow back now! Get em flying straight and they will serve you well.

[tomsm44]

Thanks again guys.