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Offline katman

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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2016, 04:38:00 PM »
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i dont know i got the stickd from 3 rivers, the stuff is junk already had 3 inserts pull out today with there garbage
Please describe your method of using the product and maybe we can help.
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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2016, 06:21:00 PM »
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Get the Quick Stick hot melt from Big Jim's Bow Company and you will not have those issues anymore!

Sorry, I don't know anything about the 3Rivers hot melt.

Bisch
Big Jims hot melt is awesome. Haven't had an insert come out with it yet. I was using the store brand (Eastons?) before, and was losing inserts left and right in targets.
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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2016, 06:25:00 PM »
i heat the insert and a generious amount of glue and twist the insert in let it dry and remove the excess
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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2016, 06:29:00 PM »
Do you clean the surfaces before applying heat and glue? Residual contaminants will hinder adhesion. Some also prefer to scuff the inside of the shaft with a bore brush. I  prefer denatured alcohol as a cleaner/degreaser since I have it on hand for the alcohol burner. Don't use isopropyl alcohol.
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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2016, 12:31:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Bisch:
Get the Quick Stick hot melt from Big Jim's Bow Company and you will not have those issues anymore!

Sorry, I don't know anything about the 3Rivers hot melt.

Bisch
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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2016, 09:14:00 AM »
I know nothing about carbon arrows and their assembly but I know one thing ..don't ever use hot melt for gluing on points to your wood arrows. Boy! I was stupid... I'm going to order ferrule tite glue .
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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2016, 09:15:00 AM »
I know nothing about carbon arrows and their assembly but I know one thing ..don't ever use hot melt for gluing on points to your wood arrows. Boy! I was stupid... I'm going to order ferrule tite glue .
The hard amber colored stick .. Worked in the past  no problems.
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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2016, 09:24:00 AM »
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Originally posted by starshooter:
I know nothing about carbon arrows and their assembly but I know one thing ..don't ever use hot melt for gluing on points to your wood arrows. Boy! I was stupid... I'm going to order ferrule tite glue .
The hard amber colored stick .. Worked in the past  no problems.
????????? Ferrule Tite is a hot melt glue????????

It is just not near as good for inserts as the Big Jims Quick Stick.

Bisch

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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2016, 11:30:00 AM »
I use the low temp hot melt. It is a blue stick. I don't clean the shaft or insert. Once the glue in on the insert, I spin it as I install it inside the shaft, once it's seated I clean off the excess glue and run it under cold water. Never had problems

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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2016, 12:03:00 PM »
I do what Bear Bowman does but use the brown hot melt...Not blue...otherwise, duplicate and all on carbon...dip in pot of tap water to cool and no issues...ever.

I worked in an archery dept and starting about this time of year, folks would come buy arrows at the last minute...

We didn't have time but to cut to length and install inserts, carbon & alum.

We had a hot pot of brown melt hot melt,, cut, tapped on table to knock out the dust and did the hot melt thing... in 15 min, guys were shooting into a masonite backstop that hurt to pull arrows...I heard of two pull outs.

I use for inserts and BH on screw in adapters and never had an issue---yet.

Seems from years here, the quality of the hot melt must be a huge issue... I see people recommend and do a lot of stuff to make it work, but...seems to me it must be the quality of the glue itself... lots of imitations must be on the market.

I think what I had was Bohning we sold at store, but hear great stuff about Big Jim's too!

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Re: hot melt trouble
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2016, 09:52:00 PM »
I've always heard good things about that Big Jims hot melt glue. Still waiting to use up all my glue I've had for 10 years so I can try his out. Never heard anyone say they didn't like it.
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