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Author Topic: Making 3D Family Friendly  (Read 443 times)

Offline YosemiteSam

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Making 3D Family Friendly
« on: November 14, 2016, 02:22:00 PM »
My boys & I attended a 3D event last weekend and had a fun time.  However, I couldn't help but notice that the event itself was very family UN-friendly.  That is not to say that there weren't friendly people.  We met some very friendly folks and I wish I could have talked with them more (try having conversations with little ones around and always asking questions -- it's tough).  But the event as a whole, was about as unfriendly toward kids as anything we've attended.  Here are a few ideas for these kinds of events that would improve the family experience and help foster the next generation:

1. Clearly advertise start times and state whether these are firm or flexible.  We've attended shoots where it's a come-and-go as you please where you just work in wherever and in whatever order.  This one, upon showing up an hour late, hardly knew what to do with us.  The event hosts were polite and flexible but we were clearly outside expectations.

2. Identify families shooting together and try to link families and kids together.  My kids enjoy shooting with other families and like to feel that they are welcome, not just a politely tolerated.  At a compound-centric event we attended last spring, we linked up with a couple, random groups and they were very encouraging to kids and my son enjoyed it so much that he asked if the same guys would be at this event.  This time, however, we we felt like a pack of lepers to be avoided during the shoot & were largely on our own.  Not one group invited us to join them.  Mind you, my kids are very well-behaved and easily engaged conversation with a few friendly people -- making the adults crack up with their stream-of-consciousness conversation.  Making space for kids, linking families together to shoot together, helping kids get the most out of these events ensures that these kinds of events will continue in the future.

3. Have a short-range practice area that is a permanent part of the event.  Young kids just want to fling arrows and watch them fly.  Precise aiming, distance estimation, etc. are beyond the skill set of most 4-6 year-olds.  Wandering around and waiting for grown ups all day isn't going to be fun for long -- they need to be able to engage in their own practice and play.  This event shut down the practice area for the 3D competition.  Because of the need to "keep moving" so as not to hold up other shooters on the course, we couldn't just relax and let them fling arrows.  If they really wanted to have some fun, adding some flu-flu practice with helium balloons would be an absolute kick for the little ones (my oldest son's idea).

4. This is more of a side note, I don't mind some drinking -- especially late in the afternoon.  But if you're pretty toasted and follow us around paying a lot of attention to my kids but almost none to the surrounding adults, you've thrown up every parenting safety red flag there is.  Quietly, I'm actually checking for exits, watching your hands, stature, etc. for your physical vulnerabilities should I need to take you down if you get out of line.  If you have a socially-awkward friend in your group, they may need a gentle reminder to mind their social manners when around kids and drinking.

5. Sadly, take a lesson from the compound shooters events and actually cater to kids for a portion of the event.  Kid-only competitions, kid stakes at the 3D targets, special prizes for participants, etc. go a long way to making kids feel like they want to come back.  For this event, special thanks to the hosts who went out of their way to give our kids some event pins and free raffle tickets -- the boys really loved that & it was a nice touch.

6. Foster an easy-going vibe.  Some people are too competitive.  It's like caveman golf and should be about as casual as that.

7. Have safe-zones to walk back to the main parking and event area.  My youngest is only good for about 20 targets before we need to head back, refuel the calories, rest in the shade a bit, etc.  But instead of just walking back, we had to wait for several large groups to finish shooting so we could walk through to the next target, only to wait again.  We couldn't even take side roads since they were right behind some of the targets (high risk of being downrange of arrows).  That extra 40 min of waiting around isn't easy with little ones who are already spending a lot of the day waiting for grown ups.

Again, my kids had a great time and I didn't call any attention to the unfriendly aspects of the day.  I'm glad that they remember the day as nothing but fun and won't tell them otherwise.  But I certainly have some reservations about going back to this event in the future -- at least until the boys are older.  It took a lot of work on my part to make sure that they had a good time -- having a vested interest in making sure that they do.  After all, it's a lot easier to convince the wife to let me go to these things if she gets a day off from the kids.  For the sake of keeping this kind of thing going in the future, we parents can use some help.

For those of you who attend more family-friendly events, what are the things you've seen that help foster a more family-friendly, multi-generational atmosphere?
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Offline bear bowman

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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2016, 02:51:00 PM »
My little ones are all grown now but I've always had to make it fun for my girls. When they were really tiny, I'd put the first shot on the animal and she'd have to "sneak" up to the targets using available cover to put the "killing" shot on. This lasted for a year or so and then they wanted to be integrated in with the adults. At that point they just walked closer and took their shots.
I am happy to report that the oldest is now 23 and loves bow hunting. The youngest who is now 19 loves to eat it but wouldn't hurt an animal.
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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2016, 04:57:00 PM »
I go to several shoots on a regular basis, and I can say these shoots do not sound like the one you are describing. I am sorry to hear of your unfortunate experience. Hopefully, you will find a place that works better.  One thing, though, you will always find some who are very competitive, so if you are in front of such a group, just let them play through. That will alleviate a lot of potential stiff attitudes. I hope things get better.
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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2016, 05:04:00 PM »
All our 3D shoots are geared with kids in mind. The kids take over the show. Everyone just loves watching the youngsters shoot.

I'd suggest you find another shoot to attend.

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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2016, 06:02:00 PM »
All of the 3-D shoots I attend here in CA are very kid friendly.  Kids shoot at pretty much whatever distance they want to, as many or as few arrows as they want to, as long as they aren't turning in scores.  If they need to go back, you can take them forwards or backwards whichever way is quicker, just go from one target to the next as people are pulling arrows.  There usually aren't a lot of kid specific events, but they get to participate and shoot arrows, which is mainly what they should be concerned about anyway.
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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2016, 07:36:00 PM »
Our club was like that many years ago. One guy bragged his wife had never been to the range even for our Christmas party. The club was a bunch of crusty old Bowhunters and even gave new guys like me a hard time. Some of us took over and those guys are now pushing up Daisy's.
Drinking and archery DO NOT mix in this day and age. After all is said and done for the day and folks are in campsites it's OK. Major lawsuits result from accidents even when folks are on the way home. We had that experience.
Kids are the future of archery and bowhunting in this country. It is a statement we have been making for years and years. I am surprised that club is not on board yet.

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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2016, 01:41:00 AM »
We started our club in 1998.  It has been family oriented all along.  We've had balloons, balloons with a slip of paper inside with a prize written on it, novelty shoots, and crafts as prizes for everyone, such as necklaces with charms.  We have kid stakes, but let the young ones shoot from anywhere.  We included in our announcements and our on-ground rules that profanity and obscene language would not be permitted.  To my knowledge, we've never had a problem.  After a few years at a private facility, we moved to a state owned park, so drinking has never been an issue.  We've always tried to serve our youth, not only through our tournaments, but we've traveled to Girl Scout camps, youth outdoor events(which sometime had several thousand kids in attendance, and worked us nearly to death), church groups, and other gatherings.
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Offline BlacktailBowhunter

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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2016, 01:57:00 AM »
Number one is to be part of the organization putting on the event, attend pre event meetings.

As far as a safe place to snack, take a pack full of snacks with you and plop down right where you're waiting for a group to finish shooting.

I've been on countless shoots with my kids and  have never experienced any issues.  Stump shooting is a great way to get the kids out and avoid crowds.
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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2016, 08:12:00 AM »
I have never attended a 3D shoot that comes close to what you have described.

Drinking Alcohol has no place around any weapons or kids. First sign of drinking I would have loaded my kids up without wasting any time.

I would notify the host club with your concerns, they are the only ones that can fix that club.


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Re: Making 3D Family Friendly
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2016, 09:56:00 AM »
I am not surprised to keep reading these replies that many have not had to share experiences like you. All the shoots I attend are very family friendly.  I think you will be able to locate such a place, also. Active participation in a club can help your concerns and preferences become club policy.
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