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Offline Terry Green

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2016, 04:47:00 PM »
I hear ya Sam...But I have a lot more time invested in shooting practice than on actual game.  Just like when you played ball as a kid...WAY more practice invested than actual games.....its part of the fun.

No telling the time I had invested in a duck dog I trained ...and I live in GA, not really a duck hwy.  Anyhow, I will have those hunt retrieve memories till I die....along with the many great memories of the journey to get there.  I could not invest that time now....but I didn't have kids then, but she was my little girl.

Et al......how about a dog, sorry if I missed it, that will track deer and hogs?
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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2016, 09:42:00 PM »
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Mr. Fingers, can't you take your dog "hiking" after shooting a deer?
Yeah I was thinking I could bring him for a nice walk in the woods. He loves the woods. Lots of smells   :goldtooth:

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2016, 06:03:00 AM »
Terry, do you mean blood track both deer and hogs, or blood track deer and bay hogs?

If it is blood track both then any of 'em that are worth the dog food will blood track whatever you put 'em on. They aren't animal specific.  A couple of the best blood trackers I've met train with beef blood because its easier to get and less "strong" as a German told me, than deer blood.  I think he meant gets a dog less excited.  Anyway, those dogs track deer and pig, not cows.   :)  .  Drop me an email, Terry, if you want and I might be able to help out.

If you are talking about baying pigs then I don't know anything about that.

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2016, 07:53:00 AM »
I agree with Ryan that most all dogs will track most any wounded animal they are put on.  Bear Dog tracks deer and hogs and has trailed many a wounded bear for some of our Tradgang readers.  

I would note that MANY of the good handlers that run OFF LEAD lead have broken their deer blood dogs from running bear and hogs because it will just end bad sooner or later for the dog.

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2016, 08:25:00 AM »
Yes...blood only.  Thanks guys.
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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2016, 08:27:00 AM »
Yes...blood only.  Thanks guys.
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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2016, 09:34:00 AM »
John that Jagterrier is a beautiful dog.  Wow.

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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2016, 11:20:00 AM »
agree with a few of the posts...that if a dedicated blood tracker is what you want...the wirehaired dachsund and the bavarian mountain hound are hard to beat.

the Jagdterrier is good but may be more than some want with the prey drive if ONLY blood trailing.

myself I like to shoot quail, dove, ducks, rabbits, squirrels in addition to big game so I have a drahthaar...great blood tracking too but also good for bird and small game hunting and like the Jagdterrier will take out vermin when encountered afield.

that being said if you already have a hunting breed or ability for a good well bred dog you can teach them to blood track....thing I have seen and experienced is they need to have good focus and concentration in addition to a good nose...while some others might do the job most the time...going with a purpose bred line is the way to go if you are serious about it.  Just my two cents.

This is my second versatile breed from europe, not the AKC version....but mine is only 8 months old now so still getting experience in vast area...but has already tracked dead fur quite easily on a 100 and 200 yd drag...the live cotton tail tracks are a bit tougher as less scent but has the ability...I just need to stay consistent and bring it out in him.  Here he is at 6 months after morning of romping through woods and doing a 100 yd dead duck track.  
   
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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2016, 11:57:00 AM »
Here in Texas the Lacey dogs seem to be the most popular for the ranchers I know.

They are working dogs and tend to make poor pets.

They are big enough to catch a wounded deer and hold it at bay in the brush  
   

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2016, 01:59:00 PM »
Ron. That's a good looking pup.  I have always liked the looks of them.

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2016, 04:17:00 PM »


This is what happens when you let your hog run off to die.  The dogs had a long track job the next morning.  Coyotes left some hide and hooves.  

Dave

Thanks for the comment on Vader.  He was our stud dog for a few years. If you were a varmit he was the last thing you wanted to see closing in on you because you were going to die in a messy and painful manner.   He was a beast on hogs and coon.  He was a nice dog with people.  I did not have room in the kennel and sold him, which I now regret. I kept 4 females out of him and have some puppies from his line due any day.

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2016, 10:55:00 AM »
This is related in that the OP is from Oklahoma.

I copied it from another web site and thought that the hunters from OK. might want to see this...

"UBT brethren and sistern! We folks in Oklahoma could use your help.The Public Hearing part of the ODWC regs for 2017 has begun and the "exception" to the regulation forbidding the use of dogs in deer hunting to allow tracking is in those proposed regs. While we have been allowed to track this season by warden approval, this will put it in written form in the regulations. While many of you may see the exception as not perfect, it is a huge step forward past "illegal" and will give us an opportunity to establish some good will and work on changes later on.
If you would take a moment to respond, just an "in favor" will do, and you can write something additional if you choose. Obviously, any positive input from your experience/state would be great. You don't have to take the whole survey, you can just comment on this one change.
1) go to  www.wildlifedepartment.com
2) click on "Proposed Hunting & Fishing Reg Changes"
3) click on "surveymonkey" link
4) click "next" to #10 and add your comment
5) click "next" to end of survey and fill in your name, etc"

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2016, 12:03:00 PM »
My 2 cents worth is this:

For any dog that is going to have a job, from pointing quail to tracking blood, make sure you buy from a breeder who can prove that the parents are successful at that job. The wise, old saying is the best way to select a good pup is to select its parents -- and I have seen that proven many times.

Then, dedicate yourself to patient training. Show the dog what you want it to do and be patient. It will take the dog a year or two to really develop. A dog needs lots of experiences to become savvy.

Terry is right that you have to love the dog and the training, because there will be more hours in training than in the tracking/pointing/retrieving, or whatever the dog's job may be. It is like football -- a week of practice for a single game, and a ton of practices before the first game. You have to love the practice.

And, it never hurts a good working dog to be a family pet. Working dogs thrive on love and attention. And a much-loved dog is easier to train.
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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2016, 12:27:00 PM »
I had a beagle springer mix named shorty.
He would bring rabbits to the house when he was no bigger than one.
I never had to teach him a thing. I only put him on the trail on a leash and away we went.
I agree with buy a dog you can live with.. As long as it has a hot nose it will work.

I came across a yellow lab staffordshire mix and what a handsome dog he was. Coldest nose ever. Sat right next to a planted pheasant looking up at me wondering when we would continue out walk..lol

Good dog otherwise, gave him to an older couple at the time.

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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2016, 09:00:00 PM »
Joe knows... let me tell you I've hunted over his dogs ...nothing short of spectacular!!!

And again to Joe's comments....my pup came from a back to back field trial champion...."Rippin Blue Thunder"
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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2016, 05:25:00 PM »
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Ron. That's a good looking pup.  I have always liked the looks of them.
Thank you
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« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2016, 04:38:00 PM »
Okla Wildlife Dept just sent me an email answer and said it is legal to use tracking dogs for wounded animals on private and public land in Okla.They must be on a leash and no one in the group can have a weapon on them.
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Re: Blood tracking dog
« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2016, 05:16:00 PM »
Ron, good looking Draht!!! Mine is 7 months now. He doesn't quite have the beard yours has. I'm hoping it will fill in soon. He did another mock trail this morning. Only about 250 yrds . Less than an ounce of blood for the first half then only 1 drop every 25 yrds or so for the last half with tracking shoes. Aged 19 hrs. It's amazing what these dogs can do. His longest track was 2 weeks ago that was 560 yrds with 2 90* turns, 3 creek crossings, and a 60 yrd back trail.  But it was only aged about 6 hours.
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