Aluminum arrow guru's

[DanielB89]

I am trying out some aluminum arrows and need some help from those more experienced than myself.

I have some 2114, 2018, and 2117.

The 2114 have some type of adapter than allow the shaft to accept a carbon nock, the 2117's have, what I believe, is a "swagged back" where the back of the arrow is beveled.  What nocks can I use on these?  

I would prefer to put the adapter if (if possible??) so that I can adjust my feather orientation easily.  

Will the 2114 and 2117 accept the same insert?

[Biathlonman]

You are looking for a "uni-bushing".  I would guess that they are probably the same these days.  I know at least on the point afapters they seem to be the same.  I perfer the glue on nocks.  I use 5/16 on 2117.

[DanielB89]

Originally posted by Biathlonman:
You are looking for a "uni-bushing".  I would guess that they are probably the same these days.  I know at least on the point afapters they seem to be the same.  I perfer the glue on nocks.  I use 5/16 on 2117.

why do you prefer the glue on?

[Biathlonman]

Probably because it's what I started with.  They shoot just fine on my bow and one less thing to worry about.  Also less chance to "Robin Hood" them.

[DanielB89]

what glue do you use for your alunimum arrows?  I had had a few feathers that peeled off.

When I fletch I tack the nock on the edge with hot melt, I always use the same Bjorn snap ons for that.  Then orientate and glue my preferred nocks after.  Personally, I like the old original Mercury nocks to the uni bushing nocks.  That is quite a spine jump from 2114 and 2018s to a 2117.

[Rough Run]

Daniel,
Like Biathlonman said, you want an Easton "Uni-Bushing".  They are shaft size specific, so make sure you order bushings for each size shaft you are adapting.  Hot melt glue to secure them, so they can be salvaged if the arrow is damaged!  For the sizes you listed above, the Easton bushing will be for use with the Easton S nock, &/or the Super nock - or other brands compatible with those.

[eckterling]

If you want to use a uni-bushing (which will glue in to the shaft) and push-in type nocks so you can adjust the nock orientation you will have to choose the specific size of adapter for that arrow. Even though the 2114 and 2117 have the same outside diameter (21/64) the wall thicknesses are different (0.014" and 0.017") which means the inside diameter will vary. I know 3 Rivers sells all the sizes of uni-bushing.

Josh

[Rough Run]

I recommend the fletching tape for aluminums, with a drop of NPV front & back.  Prep with denatured alcohol, and I've never had one peel off.  And, for what it's worth, I like the uni-bushings.  Like the adjustability, and the ability to change nock brands or just the color.  And they fit my strings well.  I carry a couple extra, and if they pop off from a hard hit (or miss), I pop in a new nock and still have a full compliment of arrows in the quiver.

[crazynate]

I use gorilla glue gel when fletching directly to aluminum shafts. Fletch tite platinum if i am using a dip. And I also prefer the camo hunters with the uni bushing. Easier for tuning when I'm checking for clearance issues. It's better than melting off and glueing on new nocks.

[DanielB89]

Originally posted by Rough Run:
I recommend the fletching tape for aluminums, with a drop of NPV front & back.  Prep with denatured alcohol, and I've never had one peel off.  And, for what it's worth, I like the uni-bushings.  Like the adjustability, and the ability to change nock brands or just the color.  And they fit my strings well.  I carry a couple extra, and if they pop off from a hard hit (or miss), I pop in a new nock and still have a full compliment of arrows in the quiver.

Thank you for your incite.  I will be trying them out.  I am ordering some stuff now.  


Will the 2114 insert work in the 2117 as well?

[Biathlonman]

At one time all aluminums had individual inserts and bushings, they seem to be combining the sizes as of late, the last couple times I've bought inserts they have been listed as 2114-2117.  YMMV

[M60gunner]

Glue on or push in nocks are a preference. Only reason I do not like the unibushing is the small nocks. You may like them, my son did. I would cut the "cone" off and glue in the bushing.
An old method of cleaning shafts that is still good is, using comet or Ajax cleanser and a scrub pad clean the shafts using hot water. Old shafts can pick up junk and dirt that does not wash off with chemicals. Only glue I use any more is Saunders NPV glue. I got tired of having a "glue factory" on my bench.

[DarrinG]

I also like the uni nocks better. Easy to move to orient fletching and easier to replace. Swaged ends are not bad, I just prefer the ease of the unibushings and uninocks.

[Burnsie]

I just converted some 2114s with swaged ends to uni-bushings with G-nocks.  I think you can also get them that take S nocks.  If I had to do it over again, would probably use the super-nocks, the overall nock is a little larger and the part the pushes into the insert is beefier.
Swaged arrows are becoming less and less common,  but if that is what you have and you want to go to the uni-bushings,  you will need to make sure you cut your arrow back far enough from the swage. The swage process puts a taper in the arrow about another 1/4" to 1/2" down the arrow shaft from where the swage ends.  If you don't cut them back far enough it is almost impossible to get the uni-bushing in.
In the pic below the top arrow with the yellow nock is a uni=bushing with a G-nock,  the bottom arrow with the green nock is a super-nock.  I also show an adapter you can get that allows you to us regular nocks without a swage.
 

[bucknut]

You also get better feather life out of Uni-Bushing arrows. Just rotate when your feathers start to get a little ragged. That is one of the reasons I like 4 fletch with glue on nocks.  I too have switched to using Saunders NPV as my only glue for aluminums. Just my 2 cents. John

[Burnsie]

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[Snow Crow]

Originally posted by Rough Run:
... For the sizes you listed above, the Easton bushing will be for use with the Easton S nock, &/or the Super nock - or other brands compatible with those.

Bohning Signature nocks are also compatible with the Easton Uni-bushing adapter.

[hvyhitter]

easton  super 3D nocks have wider throats for thicker strings........ if you can find them