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Author Topic: Stillhunting/rattling  (Read 321 times)

Offline Matt Fowler

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Stillhunting/rattling
« on: August 16, 2017, 10:08:00 AM »
Gettin' tired of the treestand so gonna spend more time on the ground this season. Want to try stillhunting and rattling. My cabin is in north central PA, big woods, mountains. There are several edges, cuts, skidder trails I could work. Looking for some input on technique. How long would you wait after rattling before stillhunting your way to your next rattling location? How far would you move? I'm thinkin maybe wait 15 or 20 min and move maybe 300 to 500 yards. What about calls? Can call, grunt tube, both? I would try to mix in both. I haven't used any type of scent for years. Maybe a little doe in heat? I don't want to be carrying a bunch of crap. Would you take a seat or tough it out on your knees when you rattle? Or would you stand? I would be doing this the end of October, early November. Appreciate any tips or suggestions.

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Re: Stillhunting/rattling
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 02:10:00 PM »
Oh man! That is pretty much all I ever think about...hunting PA mountain deer. There are some giants living there! That's a worthy challenge to try to get one rattled in and killed from the ground in that area. You won't have other hunters bothering you. I haven't seen a hunter in years. Back in the day when deer were plentiful, ground hunting wasn't too hard. Of course most of the deer were younger then, you could see several bucks and get multiple shots in a day. Now we have very few deer, but some really big bucks. Rattling does work to bring a buck to you. But close enough for a shot in a place where you can draw and shoot from the ground is going to be tough. (Though anything can happen which is probably why I try rattling from the ground too.) Doing some quick math just now, I've spent about 495 days mostly in a treestand hunting that area. while there are exceptions, most of the time when calling brings a deer and he looks for you he easily circles and winds you. It's not even hard for them. They come in circling at 40-60 yards through the trees until they hit your wind and trot of silently. Most of those time you would not have seen the deer if you were on the ground. Sometimes I think maybe that same deer could have come by unaware of a hunters presence if he didn't rattle. I have a theory that deer are more wary when they are less of them. Not only are they extremely wary, they have the benefit of constantly swirling winds. The contour of the land creates swirls and thermals even when direction is constant. Deer don't stick to trails predictably, they meander directionally. Combined with steep terrain and long hikes It's all a recipe for some of the most rewarding and demanding deer hunting you can imagine. Sometimes by mid season I hope the village idiot deer comes by me. Shot opportunities are about 1 per season for a traditional bow shooter. Seeing a buck and getting in compound or rifle range is considerably easier. I don't claim to be an expert, just sharing what I see. I'll share that in the last 4 yrs I have been inches or moments from killing nice deer ea year but could not get it done. The worst was last season when a carbon arrow shaft snapped off behind the head on the opposite shoulder it should have punched through. It was a dark rainy day with no exit hole and no blood. This year's shafts are much tougher. I've been tempted to name the shafts I used but figured I get banned from tradgang. They are junk. So easy to snap.
PSU Deer biologist have a blog that is really beneficial for those that hunt the area. Check out the collared deer monitoring. Lots of deer secrets are revealed. And it makes you wonder how you killed one in the past with any weapon!
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Re: Stillhunting/rattling
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 02:45:00 PM »
I should add that the most responses to rattling have been about 8:00-10:00 AM. And again around noon. With almost no response later in the day. Close encounters increase if you use a quality buck grunt call with the rattling. Sometimes just the grunt alone is more effective. Twice maybe 3 times deer have come when I was going up a tree in the dark. To a buck in the rut the sound must sound like a deer making a rub? (so much for being wary huh?) And also most commercial buck grunt tubes are poor. The don't blow loud enough to use if it's cold at all breezy.
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Re: Stillhunting/rattling
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 04:16:00 PM »


Left hand shooting position.

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Re: Stillhunting/rattling
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 04:25:00 PM »
Above is my Nifty Seat with the longer peg.  The belt is just a stretchy walmart belt that goes over the seat and through the loop, then round and round and around to be fastened. I sometimes use a cover butt pad that has a snap loop that I snap to my belt in back and it goes dangling merrily along, it makes the seat a bit more gentle for my  bum.  I have a very bad low back and it is critical for me to be able to get off my feet on occasion.  I agree that later in the mornings in pre-rut have been our most successful rattling times.  I do not hit the woods until shooting light when i plan on still hunting and if it is pre-rut and I am an hour late so big deal.  I have never shot a deer before 8:30 A.M., but I have shot a bunch between 10 A.M.and noon.  When all of the other hunters are moving out, they make the deer move around.

Offline mark Willoughby

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Re: Stillhunting/rattling
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 04:48:00 PM »
I've had great success with the black racks and the extinguisher grunt call
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Re: Stillhunting/rattling
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2017, 05:21:00 PM »
I have rattled in a few deer but never have gotten a shot. The reason is simple, I rattle too long at a time and have had them come up while I was still moving. It is very hard to lay down the rattling antlers and pick up the bow without spooking the deer. Unlike Tedd, I have had response later in the day, but still not as much as morning. I always call from a stand or ground blind, without trying to stalk. You could use a stool so that you can sit still and quiet. One possibility is to scout your area, taking note of pre-determined ambush spots to stop and rattle. This could include pre-positioning several stools. Theft may need to be a consideration, though. Good luck.
Sam

Offline Matt Fowler

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Re: Stillhunting/rattling
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2017, 09:24:00 AM »
Sam, that's why I went with a rattle bag. You can still get some sound out of it with one hand while holding the bow. Antlers are a PIA although those black racks look like they would be better. Was thinkin about trying the one you strap to your leg.

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