My new Bow needs to eat

[Brian Gillispie]

Hello all,


     I am a long time stalker and first time poster.  Please have patience with me.

     My 7year old son and I just started archery back in Jan.  We decided to go with Traditional rather than compound.  We felt it was Way Cooler.

But to my question.

I just bought a used but less then 3 year old Bear Grizzly,  AMO 58 inches, 45pound draw.

They came with 2017 arrows with 125grain points.
Does anyone know what the bear company recomendation for arrows is to feed this bow?
I was hopeing to find out to avoid the tuning process.  I dont have handfulls of arrows lying around to bare shaft.  So can you folks help me out?

Brian Gillispie

[bgram]

I would guess off hand that the bow would take maybe 1916's or 2016's depending on your draw length and point weight.  Easton makes the new black Gamegetter II in 500, 400, 340 and 300.  The 500's would work, you'd have to leave them a little longer (depending on your draw length).  The 500's are the equivalent of the 2016's.  I believe the 2016's are spined around 50-52lbs.  What is your draw length and how long are the arrows?  Are they 2016 or 2017?

[jhansen]

Hi Brian,
I guess the answer to your question could be easy or complicated.  Not what you wanted to hear, right?    :rolleyes:  You can go buy some carbon arrows in the 35-55# spine range and tune the bow from there.  Carbons have a really wide range of spine in the same shaft.  Don't know how they do it but it's true.  Or you can consult the Easton arrow chart and find an aluminum that falls into the spine and shaft weight class you are looking for and tune the shaft/bow combo.  Finally, you can buy some wood shafts in 40-45# and a few in 45-50# and go to work seeing what works in your bow.

Like many things in trad archery, finding the right combination of bow and arrows that work for you and your shooting style can take a little effort.  A trad bow is a personal thing, unlike a compound.  That's what makes it fun for a lot of us.

John

[HumbleHunter]

Howdy Brian!!
I am also pretty new to trad archery so please take it with a grain of salt.

HOWEVER, if I were you I'd use carbon arrows if you can get some. I only use carbon and prolly will always use carbon. I used aluminum for a while but I kept bending or breaking them often. From my limited experience carbons are only fragile with side impacts, metal on the other hand bend easy to me. I've been pretty rough on a few arrows and they are as good as new. Course, you should always check carbons for chips, cracks, and dings and flex em. Just my two cents. With your draw weight it shouldn't be hard to find good flying carbons. I'd try a full length with desired tip weight and see how they fly. I have a 43# and 60# recurve, the 43# needs full length arrows even with a arrow in the right spine range. Your draw lenght makes a big difference too. My draw is alittle over 29".

Anyway, just my thoughts. Glad to see you got into trad! That's awesome. I never regret it and I'll never go back.

Have a great day, HH

[Brian Gillispie]

Hey guys,


     Thanks for all the great tips.  I think I like the idea of using carbons.  So far I have lost a bit over a half dozen arrows at 3D shoots, mostly to shots into oblivion.  Some to Whanging them off the sides of trees.  Some very interesting shapes I have invented.

     As to my draw length.  I got the part where I measure from the nock.  At full draw. Is my reference point my side of the bow or the broadhead side of the bow?

     Also,  what does my drawlength have to do with how the arrow behaves?  I understand that each inch of draw equates to pounds of draw.  I get the feeling you guys are making reference to something more than just how many pounds the bow is putting out concerning tuning.  I am not sure what it is though.

Brian Gillispie

[WESTBROOK]

Hey Brian,  your draw length is measured from the nock grooveto the back of the bow(the side facing away rom you).

You said your bow was #45, that is almost certainly measured at 28" draw. If you draw 27" your drawing around #42, if you draw 29" probably around #48. Those differnces in poundage are part of what determines what  spine arrow you will need.

Eric