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Offline ronda

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2007, 03:57:00 PM »
I started 3 under this summer after 20 yrs. of split finger and found it to be much more accurate and a cleaner release. I will not switch back. Todd

Offline John 4

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2007, 04:25:00 PM »
jcp161,
When I switched from split to 3 under I raised my nock point a little until I got the arrow flight I was looking for.
It hasn't effected my bows in any way I can see.
Some people mention increased noise,but that also hasn't be a problem for me.
Good luck.

Offline Big Sneaky

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2007, 07:39:00 PM »
I have shot split for 20 yrs.  Late this summer I thought I would give 3 under a try.  Made my bow considerably louder but I shot better groups for awhile.  Got to where I really wasn't any more accurate with 3 under than I had been with split.  I went back to split and have stayed there.  I think one is just better for certain people.  You have to figure out what is best for you.
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Offline laddy

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2007, 06:10:00 PM »
I had a Big River bamboo that was tillered for three under.  Top and bottom the same length and tiller.  When I tried to shoot fast three under I lifted the arrow off the shelf.  I gave the bow to my son inlaw. He likes it for three under, but since, has switched to a standard tiller and standard release.

Offline cvarcher

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2007, 08:10:00 PM »
I guess Im going to take a swipe here right now. I know I will tick some off but we can speak our mind here. This 3 under bid is just not right. If it was wouldnt Howard Hill himself have switched to it.And that stuff of "well it works for some but not all". I just cant buy that. I figured if he was the great shot then try to do it exactly the way he does it. Think about it. Why not five fingers under then. It will bring the darn arrow right up under your eye and you can sight down it like a rifle. Sure. Works great at the range standing perfectly still plenty of time to shoot etc etc. Now take that form into the woods and get ready friend. Deer busting out on your right swing draw lead release! Or try it in a half crouch twisting backward from high uip in a tree stand.It just isnt as reliable. OK . Ive said my piece. Now all those that shoot great with it can blast me!

Offline Three Arrows

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2007, 05:17:00 PM »
This is the most polite and civil site I have found.  I see that a lot of us here have tried every type of form and technique we can find.  What works for us is what we will preach.  We will always mimick those that have found some success with a certain style.  Picking one to practice with and be consistent with goes a long way towards making us more accurate.  I have spent the last 22 years trying every method and techniques I have seen: split finger, three under, two under, two finger split, mechanical release, gapping, shaft sighting, stringwalking, face walking, instinctive, eyes closed, longbows,recurves, compounds, cedar, aluminum, carbon, light shafts, heavy shafts, you name it.  I've tried it or will try it.  But, I found that picking the one method you are most comfortable with and practicing with a partner who watches your form, or video recording your form goes a long way towards consistency and accuracy.  I prefer the feel of split finger, the heft of Alaskan Grizzlies, and the split vision.  I am not a target shooter, but I am willing to try their practice habits.  It has helped me figure out where my form breaks down from shot to shot, and from end to end.  Some days you cannot shoot a 250 less than 200 score... then that squirrel runs across and whammo!!!  Then somedays you shoot consistent 250's and miss a deer ten yards in the open. ( it didn't happen to me...never...that's my story)

Offline Bender

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 12:18:00 PM »
Normally I am not one to say "Do whatever feels good." I firmly believe that there are a few basic elements of form that must be mastered to be good shooter, and these elements are pretty much the same for everybody. However, with that said, I belive that split versus 3 under is not one of those constants. I personally shoot 3 under because I get a better release that way. When I use split (I still mess arouond with it once in a while) I find that my release suffers because my fingers push/torque/generally mess around with the nock end of the arrow too much. Even when I use a "can't pinch" type of tab this happens.
 So anyway, try split, there is no inherent reason why it should be better or worse, but if it doesn't give you a definite noticeable improvement after a day or two, don't agonize over it and stay with your 3 under.

Offline eggomaniac

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Re: SPLIT VS. 3 UNDER
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 01:27:00 PM »
split or 3 finger>?
I like split, because it puts my middle finger at the 90 degree point on the string. (I think cant pinch tabs should be standard equipment on gloves or tabs.) 3 under reduces my draw length. One world champion, a 3 under shooter tunes his arrows 1/2" above 90 degrees, maybe to get his middle finger at the correct point for proper tiller?
I am not an expert archer, but it seems to me the 'pull' finger should be on the sweet point of the string, and everything else should be built around that!?
point above or below nock>?
Jason & CV stop your both right! Yes, if you watch the JS Hitting em like howard hill video, you will see it is likely impossible for point above nock to load and shoot as fast as point below nock, IF YOU ARE USING, what did he call it? the swing style? (with the bow at the waist, it would be impossible to be faster with point above) However, some folks load the arrow at shoulder or eye level, Mongolian style, and it would be just as quick either way, maybe faster point above.
Anyway HOW CAN '3 under' nock point below? What would stop your finger from pushing the arrow up the string!? I, split finger, went to the point below to see about the quicker loading, but found found it might save me from rigging a cant pinch in my glove. My top finger touches the nock and the point keeps my finger down a bit, seperated from pinching the nock.
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