Using the back

[adirondack46r]

Anybody seen this? Looks like she could crack a walnut between those shoulder blades.

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=9DC53WHFR10&feature=related

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-Ff4LQ6RA&feature=related

[Bowtie]

If only I could do that!  At my age, if I did, I wouldn't be able to shoot for a month!

[McDave]

The interesting thing to me is that her back seems to come into play early on in her draw.  Something I can work on, maybe.  I don't think my back gets involved until the end of the draw.

[cvarcher]

its called cleavage!

[JImmyDee]

Her back looks like the pictures in the Kisik Lee book.  What surprises me is that her drawing elbow seems high -- and looks like it's dropping on the loose.  Is that just me or do others see it, too?

[SHOOTO8S]

Originally posted by JImmyDee:
  What surprises me is that her drawing elbow seems high -- and looks like it's dropping on the loose.  

Looks like shes got the draw elbow in the perfect position for back tension and her follow through is near flawless IMHO

I am, however surprised when I watch a memembers video and someone says...your draw elbow is too high...when IMO, their elbow isn't high enough!

[JImmyDee]

Originally posted by SHOOTO8S:
 

Originally posted by JImmyDee:
  What surprises me is that her drawing elbow seems high -- and looks like it's dropping on the loose.  

Looks like shes got the draw elbow in the perfect position for back tension and her follow through is near flawless IMHO
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Huh.  I'm not saying she's doing it wrong -- it's just that she doesn't look like Byron Ferguson or John Schulz or any number of other traditional shooters.  I was wondering whether it was because of the palm-out release (compound) or low anchor (recurve).

[Leo L.]

That's amazing.  Her bones are nearly touching each other.

[Terry Green]

Not really amazing....just proper, and normal for someone shooting a bow.  We all should look like that really, to some degree....its what we strive for.  Some of you may not realize that your back may look like that if you have a narrower back.

Also would like to add that this IS a girl with a narrow back, and if you have a wide back, your shoulder blades are going to be farther apart so you wont look like this....and if you try to, you could be over drawing the bow.

And I agree with Rod.....from 9 to 10 o'clock is fine for the elbow....when you get above 10, you can create problems with bow and string torque.

[AllenR]

Originally posted by JImmyDee:
Her back looks like the pictures in the Kisik Lee book.

No surprise, Erika worked with coach Lee when he was coaching in Australia.  She's won several championships with both compound and recurve.

[Todd Hathaway]

she doesn't look like Byron Ferguson or John Schulz or any number of other traditional shooters.

That's because most traditional shooters are taught to keep the elbow in line with the arrow. When in fact the best alignment is a straight line from the elbow, through the anchor point, and to the bow hand pressure point.

If you keep those three points in line, all your push/pull forces are in line so the release is cleaner.

Think about it...if you only had 2 points (the elbow and the bow hand pressure point), they would always be in a straight line from each other (obviously). SO, to keep that straight line, your anchor point must fall on the line created by the elbow and bow hand (or bow pivot point).

If it doesn't that means you are imparting a lateral force to put your anchor point outside that line.

[adirondack46r]

Originally posted by Todd Hathaway:
That's because most traditional shooters are taught to keep the elbow in line with the arrow. When in fact the best alignment is a straight line from the elbow, through the anchor point, and to the bow hand pressure point.

With a medium to high wrist are those two "lines" not virtually the same thing?