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Offline kyhuntertoo

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Tuning question
« on: May 18, 2008, 11:05:00 AM »
I'm still a new face here, and new to trad so bear with me.  I realize i could probably research this using the search engine here, but everytime i do, it searches every single forum (state shooting groups) and takes about 10 minutes to find results.....and i'm on high speed.   anyways, i took my new recurve to gander mountain the other day, shot it through paper and then barshaft shot.  first paper shot showed nock high.  second shot was almost a perfect tear, but still nock was high.  i then bareshaft shot about 5 times.  at this stage in the game i'm not good enough to get consisent groups, so i can't say that the bareshafts grouped higher/lower, left or right, but i can say that the nock was several inches higher than the point, and this was sticking into a firm target, not soft or spongy.  i think everything indicates that i have a high nock point.  i started it off 1/2 high.  should i go ahead and move the nock down or should i wait until i get some broadheads and then check and see if i'm getting really higher shots?  Shooting a 50 pound Bear, 2016 (500 grains) cut to 29 inches.

Offline Steertalker

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Re: Tuning question
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 11:46:00 AM »
kyhuntertoo,

If I'm understanding your post correctly, when shooting through paper you are getting a "slight" nock high tear with no left/right indication.  At first blush....I'd say you're just right.  How far away from the paper are you?  I recommend you do your paper tuning from about 5-6 feet.  When you get your arrows cutting good holes from that distance then you can start stepping back and shooting from incremental distances out to about 10-15 yds at which point your arrows should have completely recovered from paradox.  As you move back the holes should get cleaner and cleaner.

Normally you would start out with bare shaft tuning to get the rough tuning done.  Then you finish up with paper tuning to do the fine tuning.  Pay no attention to the arrow shaft's attitude in the bale when bare shafting.  Only be concerned where the points are impacting relative to the fletched shafts.  Again, from what you are saying, fletched and bare shafts are impacting all sort of together not giving you a left or right indication, it sounds like you are pretty much there.

I would recommend you try to get your arrows to give you a slight weak nock high indication.  Again...it sounds like you've got it.  If you need to do anymore adjustments it probably can be done by adjusting the brace height, nock height and nock orientation in the shaft.

Hope this helps.

Brett
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Offline kyhuntertoo

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Re: Tuning question
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 12:15:00 PM »
yeah, i was about 5 feet away when i shot through paper.  but as far as group shooting with fletched vs. unfletched, well, i can't make consistent groups yet so i feel like i can't make a fair judgement.  i'm going to put a few more twist in the sting to see if i can get it even quiter.  that should bring the nock point down a little bit so i'll probabaly hold out on moving it just yet.

Offline kyhuntertoo

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Re: Tuning question
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 12:17:00 PM »
let me rephrase a little bit.  i can get good groups.......just might not be where i "think" i am aiming.....that will come with time.  i still have a problem fighting a bad release (probably cause i'm still getting used to the weight and draw cycle), which makes for some fliers.  but yeah, it's not like the bareshafted arrows are missing a foot or two away from the fletched ones.

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Re: Tuning question
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 06:55:00 PM »
kyhuntertoo,

Well...again...from what you are telling me it sounds like you've got everything pretty darn close.  Until you can get you form figured out and get more accurate I don't think you're gonna get much more out of the tuning process.  Hold what you've got and work on the shooting.

Good luck!!!

Brett
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