shooting past "point on" distance

[futuredoc]

I am an "aimer". I shoot 3 under and my point on is about 30 yards. So I have been searching for a good thread about this and I am not able to find one: what methods exist for shooting past point on distance? I have a difficult time with the arrow obscuring the target. I was thinking I could adjust my anchor, but that didn't see like a good idea; just wandering if I am missing something.

thanks,

fd

[MI_Bowhunter]

You can change your reference point and aim off of the shelf instead of the arrow tip.  You could also try keeping the point on but shoot split finger for the longer distances.

Some people are able to successfully change their anchor for longer distances (i.e. face walking).  There is a good example of this on the Masters of the Barebow 2 DVD.

[Mark Hedges]

I would shoot split finger for your longer shots.  I recently switched to 3 under but I still shoot split past 30 or so yards.

Mark

[reddogge]

I shoot split finger with middle finger in corner of mouth as anchor and for longer distances use first finger in corner of mouth for anchor.

[BLACK WOLF]

fd,

You can learn what your gaps are for the longer distances by moving a secondary target above your primary target for a visual reference until you can consistantly hit your target at a specific distance.

You than just memorize what those gaps are.

Howard Hill taught himself basically the same thing with his Split Vision style of aiming.

I believe his Point On was about 50yrds. so for hunting purposes he would place the tip of his arrow on the back of a deer to hit it at 60yrds. and maybe a foot above that to hit it at 70. thos gaps would also tranfer over to the target range.

Ray  

[BMOELLER]

My point on is at 40 using three under.  If I shoot to 50, I face walk.  At 40 my middle finger is near the corner of my mouth.  So I tried putting my index finger at the corner and point on target and it works faily well.  At 60, where my ring finger normally is at 40 I put my index finger there.

Main thing for me at the longer ranges is follow through.  When I follow through I come pretty darn close at those ranges.  And by follow through I mean staying absolutely motionless at release.

[longbowguy]

What's up futuredoc? The way I do it is to shoot through my fist. Mother Nature has blessed us with binocular vision. So I look over my fist and down the arrow shaft with my right eye and to the left of my fist and to the target with my left eye. Then you mentally combine the images and you can aim just fine. You can even do it when your fist is above the target, a possible origin of the term 'underhanded'.

I didn't invent the method. The English longbowmen were doing it a thousand years ago.

OK, OK, there is more. You can add to the sight picture further references like the front of your arrow shelf, the back of it, your arrow rest or plunger on a target recurve, the web of your thumb, and the top of each of your four knuckles.

This is how we can shoot the Field Archery course to 80 yards with a single anchor point. Barebow recurve archery aka Arco Nudo is very popular in Europe and this is one way they do it. - lbg

[zetabow]

I do what black Wolf said, some tourney rules dont allow anchor or switching between 3 under and split finger.

I shoot Longbow Field\\Hunter rounds and count target faces, my point on is 50yards. You have to imagine a point sometimes above target and put arrow point on that, for me on a 50cm face 45yards at bottom of face, 50 yards point on, 55 yards arrow point is above spot, 60+ yards is now a 65cm face so top of face 60 yards, 65yards 1 x whole face above and 70yards 2 x whole faces above target. (i shoot with both eyes open)

Not as accurate as sights but a lot better than just guessing.

works nice for IFAA 3D for example 60 yards is just over the top of Elks back.