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Offline O.L. Adcock

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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2008, 07:57:00 PM »
:)   :)   :) ...We have different math this side of the Pecos!  :)  30 - 0.5 is 29.5 where I come from!  :)  HeHeHe 18 divided by 15 times 100? I still can't get it to work...O.L.
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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2008, 10:43:00 PM »
Ah, what the hey, I guess you're right.  Should have written it as:

((BP/SL)-0.5)x100 =((18/30)-0.5)x100=10%

 Thanks teach !!

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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2008, 09:24:00 AM »
O.L. I'm considering the Alaskan's for my 55# Grizzly but I'll be honest, I'm really nervous about shelling out that kind of money for six arrows. I plan on putting at least 200gr up front.
Here's a question I'm hoping you or someone can answer. With the continuous taper design can they be cut to my desired length of 30" or will that change the size of the insert and render them useless.
I've heard great things about these arrows and though I'm happy with my Heritage 150's I'm always open for a better arrow.
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Offline O.L. Adcock

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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2008, 10:34:00 AM »
Dozer, The first 8-10" of the full length shafts are parallel internally so cutting them back and insert fit isn't an issue. The problem with any of the carbons from any company is consistancy from one lot to the next and the grizzly stics are no exception. It helps when companies go to the trouble of matching up arrows out of the production runs which ABS does. Don't expect to get another dozen 2 years from now that will be matched to those you get today however, in any carbon. The Sitka's are the least durable of the Grizzly line but it's the lightest/weakest and I seldom shoot over 50#. You might be able to get away with the Alaskans but you might need more then 200 up front. They are tough however, the only ones I've broke have been hit by other arrows. Sure makes you cry when you lose one!  :) .....O.L.
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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2008, 12:17:00 PM »
Freefeet,

You can add weight up front by changing the weight of the broadhead but now, you can also use a newly product called a "Woodyweights".  It is like a field tip but beveled on the front to accept a field tip or a broadhead.  They come in numerous weights from about 80 to 200 grains, are made of high carbon steel.  My son and I are using 110 gr with 190 grains Grizzlies.  I haven't got a shot this year but he kill a doe and a buck with his first two shots and got great penetration with his 54# longbow.  On the doe he penetrated from just in front of the top of the hip on the left through the right leg.  On the buck he hit the left shoulder on the edge and went through the heart and out the bottom of the right leg.  With all that weight up front we have 21%FOC.  We get good flight but the release is even more important then ever. A bad release produces results that a blind man could see.

Rick
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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2008, 12:41:00 PM »
Rick, those sound great for wood arrows. "We get good flight but the release is even more important then ever. A bad release produces results that a blind man could see."

That's just the opposite of what high FOC's should do for you. High FOC's are more forgiving to poor release or any other disturbance in flight like twigs or small children! Something else might be off somewhere?  :) ....O.L.
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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2008, 01:47:00 PM »
That should have been from the top of the left rear leg, through the torso and out the right front leg.

Rick
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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2008, 01:54:00 PM »
Yes OL, I realize that but I know that if I release correctly, the arrows fly true and there is no nock left or right but if I pluck the string.....  If you have any thoughts, bring them on.

Thanks,  Rick
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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2008, 05:44:00 PM »
Thanks Rick.  I'm still window shopping for all my arrow stuff, but a nice selection of those are definitely on my list now.     :)
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Offline O.L. Adcock

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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2008, 09:45:00 PM »
Rick, you made it sound like high FOC's were part of the problem when our form issues will make any arrow go astray. With high FOC's, we'll still miss, just not as far!  :)  As far as thoughts?...Deep hooks and back tension.  :) ......O.L.
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Re: Tuning For A Heavier Arrow
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2008, 03:04:00 PM »
O.L.
 Thanks,  I'll check them out.  Previously, I had been shooting off the finger tips but have switched to a deep hook and have found it helps.  I have found that when I don't get back tension correct this beast bites me a good one so I think you are correct.  I'll work on it.

Thanks, Rick
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