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Offline AllenR

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Re: TBM AD - "Push Release" - to Cure Target Panic - Anyone try this???
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2009, 04:51:00 PM »
Everyone is describing TP and some of it's cures.  

Dr K says it's a premature hold or a premature release.  McDave says it's mental programming. Others have given other opinions on it.

And I think that everyone is right, but only to a point.

I have to go with Al Henderson who described it as your subconscious not trusting the way you've built your shot.  And the cure is to build your shot so that you can trust it.  Easy to say, but real hard to do.

Often, the better we get at archery, the better we expect to shoot.  We've had some success and shot some good arrows and those are the ones we tend to remember.  No problem with that.  But the problem comes in when we have false expectations of how good we are.  Since we've shot a few good arrows, we think that by bearing down a little more we can shoot all good arrows.  We start to wait on a sight picture that is perfect, but our form is not quite perfect yet.  This leads to hesitation, which leads excess muscle tendion and then to either to flinching or inability to hold.  Dr.K's premature release or premature hold.

Mr Henderson & Len Cardinale wrote that you should shoot the blank bale to get the feel of your shot, then use a bridge to ingrain the feel of a good shot on a target.  Len recomnended seven drills, one for each major part of your shot, to be practiced every time that you get your bow out.  This is the way to build a shot that you can trust.   Once you can trust your shot, you are then free to consciously aim and you can rely on your subconscious to not hesitate or rush the shot.

When you can do that, you will have TP under control.

Hope this helps,
Allen

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Re: TBM AD - "Push Release" - to Cure Target Panic - Anyone try this???
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2009, 10:43:00 PM »
TILZ

I have since watched the DVD and must say this trick has if nothing at all, helped me to be able to draw on a target, and hold with out getting all freaked out and release prematurely.  I still do not execute the trick perfectly, but I do shoot very well when I do and even when I fail I am happy about being able to draw and hold my anchor while focusing on a spot, something I have never been able to do without loosing it!  Like you said, I hope it continues to help me be relaxed and control my shot / release on a regular basis.


 
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Mr Henderson & Len Cardinale wrote that you should shoot the blank bale to get the feel of your shot, then use a bridge to ingrain the feel of a good shot on a target.  Len recomnended seven drills, one for each major part of your shot, to be practiced every time that you get your bow out.  This is the way to build a shot that you can trust.   Once you can trust your shot, you are then free to consciously aim and you can rely on your subconscious to not hesitate or rush the shot.

When you can do that, you will have TP under control.

Hope this helps,
Allen
Allen

Can you direct me to where I may find these steps, is it a book or video?

I must agree with you that trust has been a big issue for me, my mind takes over after it tells me that my shot sequence is not to be trusted and my instincts are far superior and can make the shot without the help of good form.  I am learning that I must trust my shot and form for consistant shooting.

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Re: TBM AD - "Push Release" - to Cure Target Panic - Anyone try this???
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2009, 10:14:00 AM »
McDave

I must say Sir, after trying the method described in the video, there is a certain surprise that comes at the release, especially if you are really concentrating on the "push".  The string seems to leave my fingers, and kindof surprise me.  I would not (did not) believe it until I tried it myself.  

Thanks for your insight on the matter. I should have known better than argue until I had all the facts.
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Re: TBM AD - "Push Release" - to Cure Target Panic - Anyone try this???
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2009, 11:37:00 AM »
over&under,

Jay Kidwell's book "Instictive Archery Insights" is a great read and covers some of what AllenR is describing about target panic. I had target panic bad and AllenR's post is spot on in my opinion. Jay's book helped me tremedously.

It's also my opinion that if you combine Jay's book with the "Master's of the Barebow Volume 3" these two tools will provide everything required to build the perfect shot (both physical and mental). MBIII covers building the perfect shot step by step while Jay's book covers the mental portion in detail. In the video Rod Jenkin's provides his view on building the perfect shot then Larry Yien gives his take. Both are very similiar and the fundamentals are nearly identicle but having it explained differently can help understand better.
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Re: TBM AD - "Push Release" - to Cure Target Panic - Anyone try this???
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2009, 12:19:00 PM »
Tilz

Thanks for the input, I plan on ordering MBIII in short order, it sounds like everyone that has watched it comes to the same conclusion.

It is so true that the mental and physical aspects of the shot are equally important.
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Re: TBM AD - "Push Release" - to Cure Target Panic - Anyone try this???
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2009, 12:43:00 PM »
As I said I considered the push-release to be a useful learning device, but have not continued to use it as my regular release.  I wonder if anyone has continued to use it as their regular release after they learned it?  I wonder if Michael Linsin uses it as his regular release?
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Re: TBM AD - "Push Release" - to Cure Target Panic - Anyone try this???
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2009, 08:20:00 PM »
well who said the release has to be a surprise?...Isn't there 2 schools of thought on this?

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