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Offline jerome

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3 finger under pros/cons ?
« on: June 25, 2009, 10:29:00 PM »
any of you shoot that way?

Offline Stan the bow man

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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 10:34:00 PM »
H eer weee goooo againnnn

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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 10:39:00 PM »
Have a browse through the Shooters' Forum, and you'll get heaps of information.
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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 10:57:00 PM »
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Originally posted by jerome:
any of you shoot that way?
Yes, for the past 10 years.
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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2009, 10:57:00 PM »
thanks

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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 12:24:00 AM »
As you may have guessed, that topic has been cussed and discussed    :bigsmyl:  

I have done both. I'm back to three under and doubt I will switch again. I shoot much better that way.
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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2009, 01:39:00 AM »
Three under puts the arrow closer to the eye and helps many people shoot well with less practice...and some shoot better that way no matter how much they have practiced with other methods that position the arrow nock further from the eye. On the other hand lower anchors/nock positions tend to be easier to use in long range shooting. With a F-glass laminated bow there is little concern abouyt tillering specifically for three under and  if you like shooting that way It certainly doesn't bother me. Three under can be hard on selfbows unless the tillering accounts for it. Of course 3 under doesn't work well with loose fitting nocks. For me split is simply "right". I shot 3 under a little bit 25+ years ago. It was easy to hit close range targets but it never felt "right" to me so I switched back to split.

Offline Brian Krebs

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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009, 03:49:00 AM »
It works fine. I hope your nock doesn't fly apart when you shoot it: and fly into your eye...saw that once happen.

 I shoot two fingers split.
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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2009, 05:30:00 AM »
I shoot 3 under and it doesn't bother me a bit; it feels more natural to me than split.  

I had a nock break at the shot a couple weeks ago.  The pieces of the nock ended up well in front of me; I'm not at all sure how shooting split would have put my eyes at less risk.

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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2009, 08:28:00 AM »
3-under is a simpler method to use and learn. I teach this method when introducing a beginner to stick bows. It will bring the arrow closer to your eye making target aquisition a simpler matter. Many use it and do very well, Rick Welch for example. I still use it when I'm going through a shooting slump.


For me split finger gives me more "control" of the arrow when shooting quickly such as when shooting moving targets. Split raises your point on. 3-under gives me a point on of 30-35 yards. Split gives me a point on 15-20 yards further. Good thing when shooting 3-D not a big deal when hunting as most of us won't shoot past 30 when hunting. 3-under generally requires a higher knocking point when shooting a factory bow not tilled for the style. In my experience 3-under creates more string-limb noise, an issue for a hunter.


 One other personal observation, I've noticed a need for stiffer arrows when shooting split finger perhaps this is due to 3-under not maximizing the energy produced by the top limb. I dunno I'll leave that discussion to the bowyers who understand limb dynamics better than I.

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Offline jerome

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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2009, 09:47:00 PM »
thanks John ,very good explanation . will a bow  still make noise if tilled for 3 under and what about 2 split and 2 under are they any good technic  .

i just sold my black widow longbow 55@28 64''
an order a really nice t/d stick bow [email protected] 68" from a bower the bow is not made yet ,still looking for wood and got to decided about shooting style

i am looking for a silent smooth comfortable precise and practical longbow then performance will come (with a little arrow tuning )

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Re: 3 finger under pros/cons ?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2009, 10:24:00 PM »
In general, a bow won't make any more noise if it's tillered from 3 under than it will shot split if it's tillered for that.  You can usually overcome the difference if you're shooting 3 under on a bow tillered for split by raising you nock point about half the thickness of your ring finger on your shooting hand.

I've shot two under as well and often do on bows 45# and under.  When you get up over 50# it's a little hard on just two fingers - tend to get a little numb if you shoot very long - so I go back to 3 under on heavier bows.  At 43# you should be able to shoot 2 under if you want, get the benefit of having the arrow close to your eye and, at least in my experience, get less string noise than from 3 under.  I think the reason three under is noiser, at least for me, is inconsistent placement of the ring finger - if I make sure I get the same hook with all three fingers the extra noise pretty much disappears.
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