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Offline Bamboozle

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Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« on: March 28, 2011, 10:04:00 PM »
I have been fighting target panic for years. I'm fighting it hard again. Has anyone tried the "push Release" video as advertised in Trad Bowhunter and how did it work? Thanks in advance Tradgangers!
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 10:32:00 PM »
I tried it and it worked for awhile but like anything, it is all mental and you must keep at it if you want it to suceed.
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 11:25:00 PM »
Jake hit it on tbd head. You have to keep the mechanics right if you want it to work. I watched it and still use parts of it.
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 12:13:00 AM »
Anything mechanical that I have tried will work for awhile, but end up going down hill, and often will result in a poor release.

Try this, it works the very best for me, I draw, and then pick my spot, then let everything settle as far as my sight picture goes, this takes around 2 seconds once at full draw, not until then do I start a 4 count, (Onethousand-one,Onethousand-two,Onethousand-three,Onethousand-four)

Most of the time I can get through the one thousand-one before I release if I am concentrating at my best, I then keep my bow arm in place through the 4 count, and in fact after the release and the arrow is gone I bring my bow arm and sight picture very slowly back in to alignment just as before the shot. Think of the whole process as an art form, and do it the same each and every time.

I have struggled with target panic for years, and this system has seemed to beat it for me.

The key is to not start the four count until I have been on target with my sight picture for a few seconds, at that point, if I release earlier in the 4 count then usual, in my mind I have already beat the target panic, and don't fret about it.

What I find is that under stress situations, such as when shooting at game, I might realease right at the beginning of Onethousand-One, but even if just in target practice if this happens, I don't worry about it, because in my mind, I have been able to stay at full draw for a few seconds, thus I have conqured target panic.

Do this system long enough, and you will find you will be able to stay at full draw for 10 seconds if you need to, such as if when coming to full draw on a live deer in motion it suddenly stops for several seconds just as the vitals are hidden by a tree, but yet you can't let down without being busted.

For me I stress to myself in my mind the statement "Full draw is a place where I am relaxed in an uncommited state of mind"... to me that means, until I begin my 4-count!

I got parts of my shooting system from the Rick Welch video, such as holding for a time and letting my sight picture settle. I know there are many out there that say a dead release is not a good thing, but for me I am sold on it. Rick Welch is a world class shooter, and I have seen video of him even let the arrow slip forward ever so slightly and still hit the mark. So like anything, there are many ways to be successful doing the same thing, there are alot of great archery shooters out there using different styles. I believe this to be the best way to beat target panic. I know in the video Rick will say hold, hold, hold, but for me this just didn't work, it was not till I let that space of time lapse before I began my 4 count that it all clicked. Like anything, this also will take time for you to master, the only other important thing, is to start this or any process you decide to try while only about 5 to 10 feet from your target, the closer the better, for some reason it is easier to learn a good shooting process at a very short distance to your target. Then once mastered, I would still shoot at least a few shots somewhere in your practice session at a very short distance.

I have had target panic so bad in the past that at my worst, I could not pick my bow up without shaking and breaking into an instant sweat, so belive me when I tell you I know what target panic is all about. It is an ugly thing, and it can drain every ounce of joy out of archery.

If you want to B.S. about it a bit feel free to drop me a PM and I'll get my phone number to you. DK.
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 12:45:00 AM »
Are you useing an aiming point such as gap ? just curious.
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 01:46:00 AM »
I don't know exactly what a push release is, but if you want to practice hitting anchor and not shooting, holding not required, simply close your eye that is over the arrow. Do it until the feeling of loosing the arrow compulsion is gone. Then do the same closing the other eye. Then with both eyes open. You can test your nerve by intentionally aiming a little left and right, then let down.  No long holding required.  When you have complete control, you will be able to draw the bow aim how ever you aim and at that 'that's it' moment, release on purpose with again no long holding. This took me 30 minutes to fix my target panic that had lasted for years, and others in less time that could not hit anchor with even super light bows.  It is not about anything you need to force yourself not to do, it is about what you are smoothly and simply going to do.

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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 02:48:00 AM »
It helps. Would not say it's a cure but gives you a better understanding of what's going on and how to deal with it.

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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 09:08:00 PM »
Thanks so much for the replied guys. I will try the count after the sight picture has settled. I have been doing a mental count of a couple seconds as soon as I hit anchor. I can shoot really well with my wife telling me when to release. No mental stress or any such thing. It is almost like she has responsibility for the shot. I can break clay birds hanging at 30 yards pretty regular with her telling me when to cut loose. I have battled this TP monster on and off for 20 years. Motherloade.....no gap shooting.
Thanks again guys. The battle begins!
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2011, 08:31:00 AM »
I agree with Larry M. Watching Rick Welch's video help me the most with Target panic.
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 05:44:00 PM »
I bought the push-release video and it did help, but like most methods tp began to creep back in after a couple weeks.  The best money I have spent in my battle with tp was Dr. Jay Kidwell's book "Instinctive Archery Insights".  I use the drills for tp each time I shoot.  Distance seems to be the trigger for me.  I have total control out to about fifteen yards, but at twenty I couldn't even get to full draw and 30 yards; forget it.  Using his drills I am now holding and shooting with control at 40 yards.  I have been at it for a year so I know it is not a short term fix.  Dr. Kidwell is a psychologist.  If you want to fix a mental problem go to a doctor trained in that field.  I also read a magazine article recently that talked about using a mantra.  The author uses the words "keep pulling, keep pulling, keep pulling" for archery.  I am trying this now and it seems to be working.  The author said the subconcious mind is very good at aiming so you want to let it do that and put the concious mind to work on back tension, which is what the mantra does.  You start out by saying it out loud and then progress to saying it in your mind.  Good luck with the tp beast.

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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 07:16:00 PM »
Tried it and it did help, actually helped for a while but since it wasn't really fixing what was causing me to have the TP it slowly came back.

What is interesting about TP, is it NEVER happens to new shooters because they are so focused on just trying to get the string back and not drop the arrow off the rest, so by the time they get into a shooting position, they are in good form and then they begin to anchor.

I think the majority to TP happens because we learn to aim from the moment we pick up the string, so our mind is saying SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT, and we listen to it. It's one reason the drill I use removes the ability to aim before I'm in good form and only introduces the target after the fact, which at that point I switch to focusing on my follow through.
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2011, 06:32:00 PM »
The only thing that cured me coumpound tournament shooting was a back tension release , in other words a "surprise" release triggered by back tension, which the same as push pull.
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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2011, 08:29:00 AM »
I just got it,watched it,and will be sending it back for a refund come Monday.Save your money,you can get better tips right here.

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Re: Who has tried 'Push Release' video to beat target panic?
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2011, 12:47:00 AM »
I have used it with success it completely eliminated my tp
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