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Offline cnorth

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need help on bad release
« on: August 24, 2011, 10:02:00 PM »
Every so often when I release I dont really stay firm on the back wall.. What I mean is that sometimes when I release, I let my hand go forward upone release causing stiff and higher flight.. Is there some type of pratice session I can do to help with this?? Thanks ahead for all suggestions... Hope all is well, GOD BLESS!!!
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Offline njloco

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2011, 10:47:00 PM »
All I can do is tell you what I do.

Once I come to full draw and my mind decides it's time to release, I try and move as little as possible, this seems to force a good smooth release and follow through.
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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 04:53:00 AM »
I like Ken's mental cue....and would add that focusing on continuing to pull and apply back tension after reaching full draw should have your hand moving rearward at release, and eliminate collapsing.
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Offline cyred4d

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 07:37:00 AM »
Working on tightening your back muscles might help. I have been told that a good thought is to try to pull your shoulder blades together.

Offline BobCo 1965

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 09:08:00 AM »
I'd suggest buying or making a formaster and using it. This is one of the primary problems which it was designed for.

Also, a tip, think of release as part of follow through and not a step in itself.

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 09:11:00 AM »
You’re talking to a master plucker here; a sufferer of target panic forever—it seems. I really get concerned when I hear anyone talk about an involuntary collapse. That’s been my Achilles tendon for years. For me, a pluck represents a collapse (an involuntary loss of back tension) and I’ve had a most difficult time trying to overcome it without the use of a clicker. There’s nothing more frustrating in archery than for the brain to know exactly what you want to do, and then, not be able to do it.

Getting close and shooting a bale (with a very light bow) allows a guy to go through each step of his shot sequence. It allows you to isolate the exact problem and lets you work on it without the pressure of having to hit the mark.

Just remember, if you can “maintain” back tension/pulling to conclusion, you won’t collapse and can’t pluck.

Offline cnorth

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 01:01:00 PM »
thanks all for the replies
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Offline njloco

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 03:45:00 PM »
Just to add Jim Castro Jr.'s answer, I have been shooting since I can remember,57 or 58. I only  did bale shooting once and It was when I was showing a friend how to get into trad. I only took about two dozen shots while showing my friend, and when I went home and shot a few hours later, WOW, what a difference it made. So if your having problems, by all means hit the bale.
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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 04:28:00 PM »
Scroll down in this forum to release tips by Moebow and see if that would help you some than practice, practice, and a little more  practice.

Offline cnorth

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 08:36:00 PM »
sounds good...tks all..
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Offline Pete Darby

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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2011, 04:47:00 PM »
I can tell you what I do.  First off I never release.  When at full draw i push my elbow back like I am shutting a door my hooked fingers relax and the string is gone.  What I found with this type of thought process is that plucking doesn't exist  and collapsing is hard to do since my thought is only on the backward movement of the elbow not on my hand.  I can control it to look almost like a dead release or the classic archers - touch the shoulder release.
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Re: need help on bad release
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 09:46:00 PM »
This is going to sound simple. Too simple.

But it completely eliminated my target panic, collapsing, and plucking.

Draw back about 80%, then relax... maintain back tension and slowly bring your draw hand back to your anchor point. Keep telling yourself: there is no rush... there is no rush... take your time. Then keep drawing back with your draw hand and back muscles, and right about the exact time that you hit your anchor point the arrow will release and head toward the target, and your hand will continue to come back.

Just remember, relax. Tell yourself that you have all the time in the world. Because u do.
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