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Offline burch

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Maintaining your cant
« on: November 06, 2011, 07:02:00 PM »
I`m having trouble maintaining the same cant shot after shot. Do you guys have a reference for keeping your cant the same ?  One shot i`m right in there then i`m left then i`m right.

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 07:50:00 PM »
Look up moebow he has some very helpful posts about draw and holding the bow, it might help. I shoot straight up and or canted and hit the same spot, thanks to moebow's info.

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 08:22:00 PM »
If you're shooting using a reference system, such as gap, it's helpful to maintain the same cant, usually almost vertical.  People tend to develop a preference for a particular cant over time.  I believe it comes as a byproduct of good form, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

If you're shooting instinctive, you should be able to vary your cant from shot to shot without too much change in the point of impact.  Terry has a video available on this site showing him shooting with extreme cants one way and the other.

The important things to learn are good alignment, coming to full draw every time, good back tension, good anchor, and good followthrough.
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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 08:39:00 PM »
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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 05:02:00 PM »
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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 05:05:00 PM »
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Originally posted by McDave:
If you're shooting using a reference system, such as gap, it's helpful to maintain the same cant, usually almost vertical.  People tend to develop a preference for a particular cant over time.  I believe it comes as a byproduct of good form, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

If you're shooting instinctive, you should be able to vary your cant from shot to shot without too much change in the point of impact.  Terry has a video available on this site showing him shooting with extreme cants one way and the other.

The important things to learn are good alignment, coming to full draw every time, good back tension, good anchor, and good followthrough.
I`ve seen Terry`s video on extreme cant. He`s got it together pretty good. His bow hand doesn`t move, very smooth draw and release. Pretty cool video   :notworthy:

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 06:34:00 PM »
I have no reference. If it looks right and feels right it is right.
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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 10:26:00 AM »
burch,
It may have to do with how center shot your riser is, as to how much you may or may not have to cant your bow.

I used to cant my bow enough to make a "v" with the riser and shelf. The more I shot the less I canted the bow. Basically, it started as a reference point, but the more I shot my recurve the less I canted it.

Now, when I shoot a bow, I notice that I only cant it enough to get the riser out of my line of sight, so that I can use both eyes to sight/see.

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 01:01:00 PM »
burch....I really don't have an answer if you've been shooting that long.  Not sure why you haven't developed a consistent 'natural back yard shot'.

If you can't cant the same way repeatable, maybe you should hold vertical.

When I shoot, I never even think about cant, even when I cant different, the shot just happens.  If I have to alter my cant angle for a given shot, I don't have to 'tell myself' to do so, the bow and I just go to the position needed automatically.

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 01:45:00 PM »
The closer you get the arrow to your hand the less cant really matters.  I put my treestands and ground blinds in among cover or sit under hemlocks and I seldom get to use my "natural" cant anyway.  

I was also surprised to see myself shoot in images that I don't hold much of the bow grip in my hand.  My knuckles are almost 45° to vertical while the bow is maybe 20° off and the web of my thumb and first two fingers hold the weight of the bow.  I have a very high grip, probably why I stink with a traditional longbow style grip.
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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 06:36:00 PM »
I tried my cant more verticle and it tightened my groups up. I may have had a problem with torque and not tilting my head and release hand enough. Anyhow, I tried the method of just canting until the riser was out of sight giving me clearance of both eyes and it seems to work so far. I quit shooting this evening because my groups started to get wider and I know it`s from fatigue so i`ll take it up again tomorrow and see what happens. Non the less I was happier with todays shoot.   :archer2:

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2011, 08:43:00 AM »
I dont worry about canting either. It would be a bad habit as far as bow hunting is concerned due to different shot senerios. If you want consistent cant try and be aware of how the string feels in your hand.
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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2011, 12:33:00 PM »
Opinion:  If the arrows and the bow are perfectly tuned to each other, then the angle of can't is not important, but if the arrows are either to stiff or too nimble for the bow (system not tuned), then the canting angle will make a difference.

What do the experts think about that?

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 12:11:00 AM »
I'm no expert but your statement is true. But who would shoot arrows not matched to the bow?  :bigsmyl:    :biglaugh:
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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 05:25:00 PM »
O.K. another question for you guys who either have a reference mark or rubber band on the riser or limb. What do you use in a low light hunting situation where you can`t see your reference ?

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Re: Maintaining your cant
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 06:20:00 PM »
My reference mark is the tip of my arrow, and if it is too dark to see it, it's too dark for me to hunt.
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