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Offline fatzboys

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target panic right trail ?
« on: January 16, 2012, 06:41:00 PM »
My name is kyle and i have target panic.I cant hold for more than a half second when i reach anchor.No matter how hard i try.Well i tried something today that i read on here and it seems like i might be on to something.I draw with rotational method (thanks Moebow) bow and arrow pointed way left of target,relax hands and pull with back muscles.I shoot three under and anchor with pointer finger in corner of mouth.Once i hit anchor i paused for a second and than would exspand with my back muscles till the string would touch the side of my nose. than release.Is this a doulbe anchor? or just another thing that wont hold up?I was shooting from 5 yards and release felt great.String hand was really following though landing on back shoulder.Anyone do this with repeated success?

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 09:41:00 PM »
If it is working for you, keep at it.
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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 09:47:00 PM »
Having the arrow pointing to the left of the target until you reach full draw is ONE way to reduce TP.  You aren't aiming until you reach anchor.  As far as your anchor references, you have to figure out what works for you.  Finger in the corner of the mouth & string touching the nose would be two reference points but you could have more.  Like where is the base knuckle of your thumb? Under the jaw or where?  You just have to "play" with it and find repeatable places that you can feel but not think about too much.
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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 06:38:00 PM »
what i frequently do for target panic is what i call shoot backwards and it works for me.... i simply take an arrow from my side mounted quiver draw it to anchor then let down and put it back in my quiver i do the same with all my arrows. it seems to teach me i dont need to shoot and gets me back in control. I do it as many times as i need till i feel in control.
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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 11:03:00 PM »
Ive been working hard on my tp.Still dont have a second anchor like i thought when i started this post.To explain better i was drawing to my first anchor which is index finger in corner of mouth and then would keep pulling till string hit nose then release.It worked for a day. Now im back to push pull and releasing when i hit anchor.Im a snap shooter i guess.Thanks for your suggestions.I will keep trying .Thats what i do try everything . I just rush and want instant results.My target panic love this

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 12:23:00 AM »
good luck with it
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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 03:01:00 AM »
My arrow is essentially in the same position as yours, I anchor with my middle finger just back of the corner of my mouth, my index finger is under an against my cheek bone, my bent thumb drags on my face until the knuckle drops behind my jaw bone and my ring finger is on the high side of my jaw bone. one minor one, the string with my longbow always touches my chest. One thing that could change the conditioning is to try split finger and go for a completely different feel and tell yourself to anchor deep and hard and keep the hand somewhere on your face until the arrow stops wiggling in the target. The shot is over when the follow through is over.
I cured my target panic by taking advice from a retired PAA a pro, he said that it worked for him and he learned it from someone that came from many years before him. After years of struggle, with occasional minor recurrences now and then, I can control it and the cure took me 30 minutes. I have gone through this with a number of others, in a calm and noncompetitive environment and so far it has worked for all them.  The trick is to just do it and carry through with it, and also reassure your improvement by a daily ritual for a period. I know some have tried it, did not believe it was for them or tried to short cut the simple procedure and have gone back to their old ways of clearing up the problem. But what you need to do is rewire your brain by changing how your neurons fire or something like that. It could be also that my smooth and booming operatic baritone-tenor voice mesmerizes my friends into complying, but it has worked every time that I went through it with them. To avoid naysayers and those that would like to ridicule it I will explain it in a PM if you want to try it.

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 04:34:00 AM »
Here or there . I would like to here more of what you have learned. I wouldnt worry about the haters. Thats all part of this great site. i did send you a pm.

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 10:38:00 AM »
I am doing something very similar to control tp.  I shoot 3 under and anchor with middle finger in corner of mouth.  I then start saying a mantra; keep pulling, keep pulling, etc and release when the feather touches the tip of my nose.  This is described in MBB 4 by Joel Turner.  He calls it a psycho trigger.  It is similar to using a clicker without the clicker.  I don't always succeed in getting the feather to touch my nose but with several months of practice I am about 80%.  One critical part; the aiming is done prior to starting the mantra.  Once the mantra starts the shot sequence the concious mind only thinks about the trigger.  Has really improved my shooting.  Best of luck to you.  TP sucks.

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 12:29:00 PM »
Target Panic cure: BOWFISHING!! I can't stress this enough. I use to have a severe case of target panic with my compound bow. I got into the sport of bowfishing with my compound. In bowfishing you actually aim low on the fish, hoping to connect with the fish. I found that because the fish are at different depths. It takes a lot of configuration in your head "instincts" however you begin to not worry about missing the fish. It made shooting fun for me because if you miss its no big deal. I believe that the repetition of shooting without fear of missing, cured my target panic. I converted this year to a recurve and I am doing terrific.
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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 09:19:00 AM »
Lawrence would certainly like to hear your thoughts, but also it would be nicer to here them on the forum but that's certainly up to you.

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 11:33:00 AM »
pavan, thank you for your quick and detailed response concerning your cure for tp. Timing is perfect to work out and hopefully cure this terrible condition. I have one question, what distance do I stand from the target while performing those drills. Or does it really matter. thanks again.

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 12:52:00 PM »
When I worked with the guys in my yard with my four by six target it was across my garden, about 12 yards. For myself, the target was a dandelion on a gofer mound 25 yards away. To be honest, if I could get by with only shooting at the things I do when I stump shoot I would not shoot at targets, with the exception of my foam deer in natural placements. Sometimes I think targets are as responsible for TP as anything else.

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 07:41:00 AM »
the brain is a powerful thing i think you have to many thing going thou your head at one time am i reaching achor is my bow arm up do ihave the right alignment all this stuff makes for hard shooting try to go out and have some fun with your bow take out the target in target panic and what do you have relax have faith trust urself make a good shoot and go on . you can do it good luck and make it fun again
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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2012, 08:17:00 PM »
Try some blind bale shooting to get the feel of holding at your anchor point.Never had it with trad but help me when i had it with my wheels.
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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2012, 01:50:00 AM »
One great way to overcome this is to use the drills that Jay Kidwell has in his book....Instinctive Archery Insights, or watch Masters of the Barebow IV... they helped me alot...

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2012, 10:38:00 PM »
Fatboyz,

Please watch Masters of the Barebow 4, in that video, all of the science behind your target panic is explained.  There are several solutions given in the dvd, but what it really boils down to is what are you thinking about during the shot sequence.  MOBB 4 will give you not only what to think about during the shot, but also how to actually concentrate.  I don't make any money from the dvds and I would explain it further here in a post, but it would take too long.  Any of you can feel free to call anytime regarding target panic issues.  253-686-3623

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2012, 08:08:00 PM »
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i will call you on weekend.i have had an open mind and tried all.im shooting better than ever but only when i keep pulling,  never come to stop and hold. started doing a preshot routine. slowing everything way down.my goal is to bring just me and my backyard along with my routine to the next 3d shoot which is a month away.(went to first one in long time last saturday)anyway if this is good pm me...thank you kyle

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Re: target panic right trail ?
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 08:27:00 PM »
Fatzboys,

Yes please call me whenever you can.

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