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Offline Jmatt1957

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bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« on: March 24, 2012, 07:46:00 AM »
I have noticed that my groups are not as consistant when shooting a 1pcs bow compaired to a 3pcs. the only thing I can figure out is it must be the difference in the mass weight of the bow it self. I am working on my follow through, that is helping quite a bit. Any other suggestions? By the way the bow is 50@28 and I have a quiver on the bow as I do on all of my bows.
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Offline reddogge

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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 01:42:00 PM »
Same for me. That's why I shoot a Hoyt Buffalo, mass weight in the handle.
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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 01:59:00 PM »
I had the same problem, I referenced Moebow's post on gripping the bow, and it solved my problem.

Try this, as you draw, the bow will sink into your grip deeper, then try holding the bow tighter than you would your heavier bow, as you release keep holding the bow tighter and do a good follow through. It has enabled me to shoot just as well as I shoot my 3pc. bow.

Hope this helps
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Offline cjgregory

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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »
Center of mass in any object is directly linked to its stability.  The more mass the more force it takes to move it.

Of course its more stable.  like njoco pointed out, I'm sure there are work arounds.
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Offline Jmatt1957

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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 09:04:00 PM »
Hey guys thanks for the reply.

njloco I will look up the post you recomended. I have been working on my follow through, but never thought about tighter grip. Thanks

Offline njloco

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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 09:06:00 PM »
I also noticed that if I bring my wrist in a little it also helped me, just don't bring it in too much or the string will get hung up on it when you release.

Glad to help, and good luck.
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Offline Jmatt1957

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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 09:05:00 PM »
between trying to follow through and resetting my grip I think I may have this problem corrected.

Offline mahantango

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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2012, 03:50:00 PM »
I totally agree. I shoot my Hill-style LB as accurately as my Hoyt Gamemaster. I think a firm grip is the key. I frankly don't know how anyone shoots any bow with a loose, open hand grip.
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Offline joe skipp

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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 01:38:00 AM »
That's why I love Cocobolo for a riser wood and some mass to the grip and palm. My Groves has mass but is Shedua, light wood but the larger palm area creates a solid grip.

Fedora one piece is Super Actionwood in the riser but has mass and is fairly heavy. The larger thumb rest prevents torquing, again, positive hand placement every time. Same with the Kempf, Cocobolo riser, not too much mass but has a slight thumb ledge.

With my recurves and longbow, I "get a good grip" but not tight enough to cause torque.
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Re: bow mass weight and accuracy ?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2012, 11:31:00 AM »
Mass weight affects stability all else being equal but it's the 'all else being equal' part (i.e. form) that more often decides how stable your shot actually is.  One person might have a very stable shot with a low-mass Hill bow while another might be all over the place with a heavy-mass recurve.  Grip technique and achieving good alignment have (by far) the most effect on shot results.  Mass matters, but it's usually not 'the' reason for shooting problems.

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