The over exaggeration of the follow through?

[Terry Green]

Originally posted by Jason R. Wesbrock:
 

Originally posted by Terry Green:
But I don't know PLENTY of instinctive shooters have won IBO worlds...one was Ron LaClair with a 110# longbow.

 

Ron LaClair has never won an IBO world. As far as I know, he's never even competed in one. He won a Howard Hill longbow shoot years ago that was billed as some kind of world championship though. It was an unsanctioned event. [/b]

My bad Jason...you are correct...it was the Howard Hill shoot.  Brain Fart...thanks for the correction.    

[Terry Green]

Yeah Dave...ya just gotta find what works for you. Some need to hold, some don't.  I don't most of the time unless the game dictates.  If I 'lose the window' for a time, I start my let down slowly, and either return to brace or start to re-draw if the window opens again.

[Mo0se]

Form and follow through

[Diamond Paul]

McDave:  I do force myself to hold when doing form work.  Sometimes, I will hold for a relatively long time when actually shooting at things, but not on purpose, because I feel that I should hold for the sake of holding.  What I am saying is that I let the shot sequence take care of itself once the draw and correct anchor and back tension are established.  I am subtly increasing the back tension all the time, but I never choose to let it go; it just happens automatically as a result of the previous steps, just like shooting a back tension release on a compound.  I aim till it goes, however long that happens to take.  I generally find that it is about 1, 2, gone, when I am in rhythym and shooting especially well.  I tried the Rick Welch thing:  "Hold, hold, hold," etc.  Got all his vids.  All I do is creep and pluck.

[McDave]

Paul:  It may be that what you experienced is the same thing I experienced when I tried to mix the pull-through release with other elements of Rick's method: creeping and plucking.

Rick practically had to hit me on the head with my own bow before he finally got me to understand that increasing back tension during the hold and a pull through release are not part of his method.  I would try to cheat by holding for 1.9 seconds at a constant back tension and then trying to pull through for the last .1 second, which is a prescription for creeping and plucking.  When I finally understood that his method is to simply hold at a constant back tension until you release, life became much simpler for me, and it was quite a relief.

This is possibly why the arbitrary 2 second hold is more significant in his method than when using the pull through release:  you aren't really doing anything during the 2 second hold other than letting your bow stabilize and relaxing any muscles that shouldn't be tense as you hold the bow.  Because of that, the 2 seconds can seem like 2 minutes, and it really requires quite a bit of discipline to avoid rushing the shot.  I would say that this part of his method is more difficult than the pull through method, whereas other parts are simpler, such as not having to coordinate increasing back tension with aiming with release of the bow.

Certainly not trying to convince anyone that Rick's method is any better than any other method of shooting, but I think it is a fairly common error for people to think they are using his method when they really aren't, as was the case with me.

[Diamond Paul]

Well, I did try to incorporate the dead release, too, rather than the dynamic one, when I started working on the stuff in his vids.  Don't get me wrong, his info did change my approach to shooting and got me back into a more orthodox approach with a recurve; I had been basically trying to break free from the chains, so to speak, and using the Asbell method of canting, etc.  Since I was a trained wheelie target shooter, that's the world I wanted to get far away from, for sanity reasons.  Anyway, any sense of freedom I had pretty quickly turned sour when I couldn't shoot well consistently.  Rick's vids made me realize that good form is good form, whatever bow one chooses to shoot.  They got me to establish a solid anchor with multiple references, although still using split finger, and holding longer, and shooting with the bow upright, not canted.  I could never get the dead release down, though.  Sometimes I'd relax and make great shots, but just as often I'd creep and shoot left, or collapse and shoot right.  The dynamic release style just works better for me, as that is the way I was trained to shoot with training wheels on the bow.  Hand goes straight back, bow goes straight forward, arrows go center.  I think everyone has to find his own way, eventually, but Rick's vids helped put me on the path, so to speak.

[Friend]

We are blessed to have many viable shot execution methods.

There are merely a few certain aspects which we all must incorporate and beyond that, the methods we can repeat, permit a relaxed execution and enjoy the results of expectation reside comfortably with the individual.

***Fine patrolling and proper response to maintain the integrity and protection of its members which find comfort within this coveted refuge...Thank you Terry!!!****

[Jake Scott]

Friend,
You sure have a way with the Kings English!  I agree!!

Jake