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Offline tracker12

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The release
« on: December 31, 2014, 07:11:00 AM »
I am into my 4th year back shooting traditional.  It has been a lot of fun but not without hurdles to get to the point I want to be.  For the most part with help from fellow tradgangers I have been able to settle into a form that works for me.  ^The only place I thought I was still struggling with was my release.  I have lacked consistency and I pluck the string.  MOEBOW preaches the relaxed wrist and forearm but for what ever reason I struggled to get it done.  

Well my problem ended up not necessarily being the release but what I was doing before the release.  What I found was that it is very difficult to have a relaxed forearm if you are drawing the bow with the arm.  And equally difficult to have a relaxed hand when drawing with the arm.

I put a little more curl in my fingers relaxed my hand and forearm and draw with the back muscles.  It is amazing how much better my release is.  Better arrow flight and a way more quieter bow.  I have been shooting ever evening at the bail in the basement for the last few weeks  so I can build in muscle memory.  I pretty confident it will continue on the range just hope under hunting conditions I can repeat this effort.
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Re: The release
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2014, 11:03:00 AM »
What Arne teaches really works, it helped me a lot. I was getting finger pinch and blaming it on string angle and needing a longer bow. My problem turned out to be my release/follow through. I cleaned that up with his help and no more finger pinch. Glad things are working out for you.
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Re: The release
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2014, 04:32:00 PM »
The problem comes with the word "Release".  Byron Ferguson says "the word in itself implies we must DO SOMETHING, when in reality we stop doing something".  If you watch Arne's videos, Terry's videos, or take a Rod Jenkins clinic, etc. you'll find that the appropriate action is to actually just keep pulling your elbow around once at anchor until the shot goes off on its' own.  Try doing this at very close range with your eyes closed.....just keep pulling/pivoting that elbow around without moving your anchor until the arrow launches.
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Re: The release
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 05:07:00 PM »
I took Rods course last summer.  Good two days but trying to master his release is easier said than done.  I have tried the follow thru with the draw arm that Arne does in his video but that just does not work for me.  I get to consumed with trying to move my hand back.
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Re: The release
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2015, 11:02:00 AM »
Tracker, I had a similar experience to yours.  You may be a candidate for the dead release. While less popular than the dynamic release, it does work better for some people. It's similar to left-handed being less popular than right-handed: if you're left handed, you don't worry about it being less popular, you just do things left-handed anyway.

The dead, or static release has been promoted by Rick Welch in his classes and videos. In a dead release, you draw the bow to full draw primarily using your back muscles, the same as with a dynamic release.  However, after you reach full draw, the pulling is balanced, so no more movement or increase in back tension, however slight, occurs during the hold.  The release can be triggered by some kind of non-anticipatory psychotrigger or just by relaxing the fingers and letting the string push them out of the way.

On release, there may be a slight backward movement of the hand, or no detectible movement of the hand at all.  If there is a flyaway movement of the hand, this would be an indication of creeping or plucking.

With a dead release, movement definitely stops and there is a hold for however long you wish.  Rick Welch recommends a two second hold. I don't believe the dead release is compatible with snap shooting, as by definition, I believe, the release occurs at the same moment anchor is achieved when snap shooting.  Rick recommends looking at the target while thinking about your form, alignment, and relaxation of muscles in the hand and forearm during this hold.  The word "looking" was purposely used rather than "focusing" on the target because your focus should be on the whole shot, including what your body is doing, rather than just the target.  When he says "think" about your form, he means awareness, as in physical awareness of what your body is doing. All critical thoughts should be avoided during the shot; any Saturday night quarterbacking should take place in between shots, or better left for blank bale sessions.

The biggest problem with the dead release is creeping during the hold.  I combat this by maintaining a constant pressure of the string against my eyebrow, and you need this or some other way of ensuring that you don't lose back tension during the hold.

The biggest advantage of the dead release is that you only have one thing to do when you release the shot, which is to trigger the release. There is no other movement to be coordinated with the release, like steadily increasing back tension through the moment of release.  Rick Welch makes the comparison with shooting a rifle, where you make every effort possible to eliminate all movement at the time of the shot.

But talking about advantages and disadvantages of the dead release is really counter-productive.  You just have to try it and see which method works the best for you.
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Re: The release
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2015, 07:39:00 PM »
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You are pretty much spot on.  I find my best shots are when get to my anchor tight to my face with my thumb knuckle behind the ear.  Upon release I get a slight backward movement of my release hand.  I also like to hold for a 2 second count.  A hold just gives me better and more consistent results.

Great pointer on keeping the string on the eyebrow.  Guess this can be similar to how Rick uses the fletching to the nose.
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Re: The release
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2015, 09:38:00 PM »
Nice post McDave!  That is a very good description of the release that I use.  Many hours of target work a long time ago ingrained the static release into my brain.

It doesn't work for everyone, but it does for me.

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Re: The release
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2015, 07:58:00 AM »
McDave
Good post.

When I watch Rick on video I often see his fingers kind of flip out to the side. I suppose from complete relaxation.

But, according to many that is an indication of a pluck. I'm sure Rick isn't plucking. When I use the dead release my hand often does the same. So, I  stopped releasing that way, thinking I was doing something wrong.

Could you clear this up for me?
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Re: The release
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2015, 12:52:00 PM »
I think a pluck involves the forearm as well as the hand, like you were trying to bop the person standing next to you with the back of your hand, or were waving to the crowd. Probably if our hands were as relaxed as they should be, our's would flop too!
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Re: The release
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 01:51:00 PM »
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McDave
Good post.

When I watch Rick on video I often see his fingers kind of flip out to the side. I suppose from complete relaxation.

But, according to many that is an indication of a pluck. I'm sure Rick isn't plucking. When I use the dead release my hand often does the same. So, I  stopped releasing that way, thinking I was doing something wrong.

Could you clear this up for me?
Thanks
Toby
Sometimes a high speed camera or video is required to see exactly what is happening. I am guessing, but I would be willing to bet that the string has long been released before you see the noted reaction.  

I would also emphasis that consistency is key, even if a "prefect" release is not being witnessed.

Personally, as noted previously, I can not think of release as a stand alone step.  I have to think of follow through.

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