Gap shooting question

[Bahrzoo]

when gap shooting my arrows are ever so slightly hitting a little to the right at 20 yards. Like say maybe a inch or two. When shooting 30 yards I hit about 4 to 6 inches to the right. My impact point on 90% of my shots are just to the right another words. I hardly ever miss to the left of center. What adjustments could I make to the side plate,brace height or arrow that would move my arrow impact to the left some? My arrow set up is a 30 3/4" carbon express heritage 150 with 100 grain tip. I am shooting a 62" Black Widow PSA that is 50lbs @ 28 inches of draw and I draw 28 inches or just a smidge  under. I have tried 400 spined arrows to see if it would move my impact to the left and it has not helped. Oh also I am a righty. Any help would be appreciated.

[Jim Wright]

You can move your impact point to the left by placing a small section of a toothpick or safety match vertically under your strike plate. If it moves you too far to the left thin it down as needed. You shouldn't be experiencing 1" right at 20 yards and 6" right at 30 yards however, that would seem to indicate a form issue.

[Scott E]

Originally posted by Jim Wright:
You can move your impact point to the left by placing a small section of a toothpick or safety match vertically under your strike plate. If it moves you too far to the left thin it down as needed. You shouldn't be experiencing 1" right at 20 yards and 6" right at 30 yards however, that would seem to indicate a form issue.

X2

Usually right misses are caused by a collapse or loss of tension on release.

[McDave]

You also might be able to solve your problem by playing around with your anchor a little.  A movement of 1/8" at the anchor will move the POI 4-6" at 20 yards, so very little movement should move the POI 1" at 20 yards.  Maybe just touching the side of your face rather than holding the anchor tight against your face would do it.  Moving your anchor to the right, away from your face, should move the POI to the left.

[McDave]

Another thing that might explain the disproportionate change at 30 yards could be if you're overdrawing at 30 yards, maybe because it's further and you want to make sure you're coming all the way to full draw, or something.  When you overdraw, your drawing elbow moves from behind the arrow to inside the arrow, throwing the shot to the right.

If it's any consolation to you, most people have the opposite problem and would love to exchange it for yours.

[Bahrzoo]

Ok- I think I will start by padding out the side plate with a tooth pick and see where that gets me. Thanks for the help so far.

[The Whittler]

Take 3-4 twist out of you string and see if that don't bring your arrows to center. If your arrows start to shoot left then bring your brace hight up a little. Remember little adjustment at a time.

[ChuckC]

Have you shot at 40 and 50 yards ?  Does it get worse yet ?  

Are you getting the arrow under your aiming eye ? If the arrow is not under your eye and you are gapping, it makes sense that any aiming abnormality is compounded with increasing distance.
CHuckC

[Firstlight]

I have been consistently getting ok groups  landing 3-4 inches right of intended point of impact.

I put a wooden matchstick behind side plate.  It moved arrows to far to the left.

I then placed a piece of old side plate material, cut to the proper length to fit behind the bows side plate.  It's about 1/2 the width of the match stick I had previously tried..

Now my groups have moved perfectly to where I want them.

I had been trying to do this  a form adjustment but it wasn't working for me.  Been using match sticks for many years...

That said, if your having arrows go left at the further distance then I'm thinking something else is going on and maybe a match stick is not what you want, could be a form thing / arrow adjustment is needed?

Maybe move your anchor a minimal amount or try a neutral to closed stance.

PS:  I'm not gap shooting thou but the "theory" is the same, methinks.

[wcdurand]

BAHRZOO thank you for this post. I have been battling with precisely the same issue the last week. I am trying to change from split finger instinctive to a fixed crawl. Decided to set up my Blacktail elite for this. firstly I tuned some FMJ arrows to my bow(52#28" I draw 27,5") and ended up with 29" arrows 400 spine 75gr inserts 125gr fieldpoints. Split fingers they grouped perfectly with bareshaft center of aiming point. Then started the fixed crawl three under, retuned the arrows to a 20yard point on. Had to raise the nocking point somewhat to have bareshaft correct. Bareshaft and fletched hitting the same spot EXEPT one and half inch to the right. Still could not find the answer. thinking now it must be a form issue moving from split to three under.

[Bahrzoo]

I have a update on my situation. I wish that I had been more patient with my changes that I made but I was not. I made 3 changes at the same time like a dummy. I added a little thicker match stick to the side plate. I dropped the brace height from 8 3/8 to 8 1/4 . I then also started to mess with my anchor point. I didn't change the middle finger in the corner of my mouth that I had been doing. What I started to do was not jam my middle finger into the corner of my mouth with as much pressure as I had been. My gut tells me the change to the anchor point might be the main reason that after a bunch of arrows shot today it seems to have got ride of my slight right impact.

[Bahrzoo]

I should add that I only shot from 20 yards today but I was close to 50/50 with impacts to the right and left of dead center.