Vid shows some creep, then expansion

[Medley]

I did a slow motion video of me shooting today. Pretty neat, I recommend that everybody try to do this to see what's going on when you shoot.

I did this for fun, not to try to diagnose anything. I'm extremely happy with my shooting, get tight groups, etc. But I noticed something interesting, and wanted to see if anybody had any thoughts about it.

Using a 29" arrow, I draw all 29", with the insert nearly touching the shelf. Then, I creep forward, maybe close to an inch. I know that I am seating my anchor in the corner of my jaw when it creeps forward.

Then, you will see the arrow slowly go back, to the initial draw length. I know I am expanding and engaging back tension at this point.

So, should I even concern myself with this? I know that some say that once you creep, you lose all back tension, but I do not think this is the case here. I am a bow hunter and backyard target shooter. I'd love to compete, haven't figured out where to start with that. Just curious about others opinions here

[Draven]

Use longer arrows. Your broadhead is not too close to your fingers?

PS

If you engage the back muscles just when you are at anchor the creep is normal. Try to engage the back from beginning. There is a reason why I like a heavy bow sometimes in the training. You can't cheat with it : you don't engage the back muscles from the beginning, your shoulder will hurt. And back muscles will engage just if 3 things happen:

1. Wrist is straight, no "dip" between hand and forearm.

2. Back of the hand and the bow are on same plane during the entire sequence.

3. Elbow is pushing back on a plane parallel with the ground (after it reaches the shoulder's height), or how some like to call it: elbow makes a "J" movement when traveling.


You can get away with what you do as long as you are happy with how you shoot.

[McDave]

The first creep may not negatively affect your shot so long as you end up with proper back tension when you release.  It is wasted energy, though, and you can probably learn to do everything you need to do in one pull, as most of us do.  If you want to compete, you have to get used to firing many arrows a day, maybe 100.  It's like now you would almost be shooting 200 to get the 100 shot.

[nhbuck1]

wheres the vid?

[fnshtr]

I do much the same. I draw past anchor and then settle in. I've tried to break the habit by adopting a more steady draw and using a dynamic release rather than my usual static release. I just can't seem to develop a consistent dynamic release.

I shoot best, most consistently, when I draw, settle in to anchor, and then concentrate on engaging the back (keep pulling, keep pulling) until my fingers relax.

Hope this doesn't confuse you more. McDave said it best.

[Medley]

That doesn't confuse me at all, sounds a lot like what I do.

Thanks all.