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Offline Rusty in Fla.

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what to do with Carp??
« on: July 21, 2005, 07:42:00 PM »
I know a lot of bowfishers think carp is a "rough" fish that has no value. I did too till I watched an old TV show. I bought a video tape this week of the old Frugal Gourmet show. The show had a lot of ways to fix fish. At the seafood market he bought a "buffalo" fish. My son recognized it as a carp right off. The Frug said he had never heard of it before but was going to put it in some Bouillabaisse he was making.

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Offline Matt E

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2005, 08:35:00 AM »
Rusty, the Horse fish is a relative of the Carp, (minnow family) and frys up very well. It has firm white flesh and ranks right up there with Crappie. This is my opinion.The grass Carp is eaten in asia and europe but I haven't gottened up nerve enough to try it yet.  :)

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2005, 01:47:00 PM »
I've heard it said that carp have a mud vein which must be removed to make the fish palletable.  Does anyone know about this vein, how to identify it and how best to remove it?  Is this true or myth?
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Offline deerfield

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2005, 11:32:00 PM »
THe best way to prepare carp is to bake it. Buy a piece of pine board that is 10 inches by 18 inches. Spread butter evenly over the whole board. Lay the carp filet on the board and sprinkle lemon pepper and butter on the filet. Bake at 350 for 1 hour. Take it out, discard the carp and eat the board.

Offline Lizard

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 10:42:00 AM »
I'm gettin a little discouraged that there aren't more responses to this thread. Poor mans
salmon is delicious. As far as the mud veign goes, filet one out and you will see it, Just cut out the realy dark areas if you choose too.
Fillet it out (save the skin for backin bows whoda thunk it), cut into chunks and stuff into pint jars with a shot of veagetable oil and tbs of salt. 90 min. at 10 lbs in a pressure cooker. Make sure the jars seal properly. When you are ready for some fish cakes, make them into patties add whatever you want, I prefer a little onion, bell pepper, some cumin and a shot of black pepper. roll in crushed crakers and pan fry.
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Offline tuselton

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 09:54:00 PM »
Well, guys I have eatten a ton of carp.  The way we dress them makes the difference. 1st you chop their tail off about a half an inch or so up in the meat and hang them up an let them bleed. After they have bled good, you skin them like a catfish, once you get the skin off, you'll see the dark vein down each side. Take a knife and hold the blade at an angle to cut under the veins down each side of it. Do this on both sides, you just pull those out and use them for fertilizer. You then dehead and gut your fish from here to cooking is just like any other fish.  Now the only way we cooked them is in a pressure cooker, so we cut them into 1 to 2 pound chunks.  Put the chunks in your cooker add some salt and pepper , allittle garlic and tabasco and fire her up. Once they have cooked you take an old fashioned potato masher and mush them up and pic out any big bones  that didn't get mushed up.  From there you use it to make croquettes or like a tuna salad or anything esle you want to do with it.


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Offline Matt E

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2005, 08:57:00 AM »
Are you fellows talking about Grass Carp? The reason I am asking is Horse fish,a type of carp. when caught in a clear river is great as is no special treatment needed. just clean and cook. It is surprisingly good fair.

Offline todd@3rivers

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2005, 03:57:00 PM »
Interesting...

Now, if I can just muster up the nerve...

Offline Kildog

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2005, 10:24:00 PM »
A little fish place had a sign that said buffalo fish...fried! I walked in to get some catfish fillets and asked them to put a piece of buffalo in there....after the catfish was gone and i thoroughly examined the piece of buffalo...I took a bite and was quite surprised at how good it was...it tasted a lot like......no not chicken!!!!!....bream!!! KD
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Offline Budog56

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2005, 12:48:00 PM »
WHat is bream????

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2005, 09:33:00 PM »
The places I kill carp have poor water quality - wouldn't even think of eating them. Eagles eat so many of my carp they start following us after a few trips. Raccoons too clean them out. Never seen them wasted.
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Offline Bowjunkie

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2005, 05:30:00 PM »
Bream are sunfish/bluegills.

Offline jmabbott888

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2005, 10:23:00 PM »
When I catch carp I can usually cut it up for bait when going out fishing off the piers on the coast

Offline fishman

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 06:00:00 PM »
I grew up in Nebraska, my Grandfather's sister fried carp we caught on limb lines. Moved to Oklahoma when I was 16, found out you can't eat them. 40 years later, my son shot some this spring, and we cooked and ate them. Still taste like the ones I used to eat. Personal preference, but they beat channel cat like a drum.

For prep, I fillet them, bones and all. Then skin the fillet and remove the middle section of dark meat. The intermuscular bones come out then, too. make sure to keep it cool (immediately is best) until you cook. I fry them, just because it is easy and quick, but they can be fixed like any other fish.

For most fish, I find that they are like any game. If you wait for a few warm to hot hours before you gut and skin a deer, the quality will be about like fish that hang dead on a stringer in warm water for half a day before cleaning. I don't need any, thanks.

I raise several kinds of fish, and did some blind taste tests a few years ago. Channel cat, grass carp (not the common carp mentioned above), and buffalo. Cooked all  three fried, smoked, and grilled. Preference rank were tie for grass carp and buffalo, with catfish left on the plate. The consumers were amazed when they found out what they ate. Cooking method made no difference. I'm still alive, so it must not have been all bad.

Offline Dirts

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2006, 04:35:00 AM »
I found my book "Why fish carp" by Dan D. Gapen Sr. and he gives the following advice.  Fillet your fish and then cut off skin.  Dan says theres a red line about half way up the fish under the skin side and its called the life line. Its the fishes sensory area.  It can be up to 3 inches wide.  Take the edge of a spoon and scrape it out, or I think you can cut it out.  Then cut your fish into bite size pieces.  If its a large fish pieces should not be bigger than 3/4 inch thick.  Next take a bowl that 4X bigger than the amount of fish.  Add one cup of salt(sea salt preferred) and fill the bowl half full of ice and then the same amount of ice water.  Stir it up and add fish.  Let sit in refrigerator for 12 hrs.  After 12 hrs. rinse it off and fix it. The amt of salt varies and one cup is for one gallon of crushed ice which is good for 6-8 lbs of fish.

A chinese recipe is to take 2/3 lb of grass carp and marinate in 1/4 tsp salt and 1 Tbsp cooking wine.  You can use gin or Sherry.  Marinate for 10 minutes.  Then stir fry with 1 Tbsp garlic cloves, 2 Tbsp each soy sauce, red chilli pepper (sliced.  and 1/2 tsp each of sugar and sesame oil. Cook over medium heat until fish is almost cooked through for about two minutes then turn over and cook another 5 minutes.  Remove and let contents in wok boil and then pour over fish and serve.
You can pan fry it, steam it, deep fry it or bake it or you can pickle it like herring.

Note: Chinese chilli pepper paste is like nitro to me. I just dip the handle end of a spoon into it and then stir it into my stir fries. I prefer to use a McCormick spice mix called Szechuan style Pepper blend.

Carp were obtained from Germany and distributed to several states in 1879 and ended in 1897 and was due to the thousands of requests for the fish from enthusiastic sportsman. The fish grew in prolific numbers and American anglers showed no enthusiasm for the carp.

Offline Dirts

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2006, 10:20:00 AM »
LOBSTER IMPOSTOR

fish fillets-Approx. five lbs.
1 gallon water
1 cup salt
pepper
butter
paprika
fresh lemon

Drop fillets in boiling salt water.  Boil 1 1/2 minutes for medium fillets and 2 minutes for larger fillets.  Count time from the moment water
returns to a boil.  Drain and place on a broiler pan.  Cover with butter, a bit of salt, pepper and paprika.  Broil one side for about five minutes a 275 degrees, or until fish starts to brown.  Repeat on reverse side.  Garnish with fresh lemon and dip in melted butter.

CANNED CARP

Take filleted fish, cut into one inch pieces and soak in salt water overnight.  Rinse in fresh water and pack into sterilized pint jars, leaving about one inch head space on top.
To each jar add:
1/2 tsp canning salt
3 tsp catsup or barbecue sauce
3 tsp white vinegar.
1 tbsp cooking oil

Place about two inches of water in the pressure cooker, enough to cover the rack.  Carefully load the jars and lock down the cover.  Affix the petcock afer a jet of steam has issued from the vent for ten minutes.  Cook for 90 minutes at 123 lbs. of pressure or 65 minutes at 15 lbs.  This is important because boiling water (212degrees F) does not kill botulism spores.  By employing a longer cooking time under pressure, a higher and sufficiently sterilizing temperature (approximately 245 degrees) is achieved.

If any jars do not seal, they may be frozen as is.  Properly sealed jars should be stored in a cool, dark place.  Often light changes the appearance and flavor of the fish.  It's best to consume the canned carp within one year.

PICKLED PUCKERPUSS

1 pound cubed carp
2/3 cup pickling salt
2 cups white vinegar
1 cup sugar
1/2 cup white sherry wine
1 small box pickling spice
1 sliced onion

Place cubed carp in 2/3 cup pickling salt mixed with one cup white vinegar.  Leave in refrigerator for five days.  Stir gently once daily to mix brine.  This solution will dissolve the heavy bones.
Wash carp with cold water under clear.  Then soak for one hour in cold water.
Heat, but do not boil 1 cup white vinegar, 1 cup sugar, 1/2 cup whte sherry, and 1/4 of box of pickling spice.  Spices should be bagged and remain in the solution until it has cooled to room temperature.
  Alternate layers of carp and onion slice in sterilized jars.  Add a pinch of spices and fill jars with above solution.
Seal jars and refrigerate for three days before tasting.  Flavor improves for up to five days.  Keep carp refrigerated.

Offline Dirts

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2006, 10:28:00 AM »
SMOKED GOLDEN SALMON

Approximately 20 pounds of skinned fillets
Enough water to cover
1 cup brown sugar
1 cup coarse or canning salt
1 tsp. black pepper
1/2 tsp chili powder
1/2 tsp paprika

Mix all ingredients in a large, nonmetal bowl.  Submerge fish in mixture.  Add more water if necessary.  Cover and refrigerate for 24 hours.  Then thoroughly rinse fillets in cold water and let drain on paper towel.  Smoke for six hours in a dry-heat electric smoker with three pans of sawdust.  Fillets are done when flakey, yet moist.  The finished product can be kept satisfactory in refrigerator for a couple weeks.

Offline Dave Worden

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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2006, 07:08:00 PM »
Don't know anything about eating carp, but I've got to tell this story.  Walking down the street in Bucarest, Romania I spotted a sign on the side of a store and above a tank full of water.  
"Crap  3.50 per kilo".  Had to check it out.  The tank was full of carp.  Obviously, somebody eats them.
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Re: what to do with Carp??
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2006, 08:38:00 PM »
Pretty interesting post for an archery site! lol

I know, I know, it's winter / post season.

I'm going to try that carp! As long as it's better than channel cat YUCK!!

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