Need to work up a carbon arrow...

[Bowhunter4life]

Ok fellas, I've just made a deal for a Jack Harrison HSS.  It is 62", 98# @ 28" and I've got a bit over a 29" draw so a tad over 100#.  I'm not sure where it is cut to, but I'm thinking a bit past center.  I know this makes a big difference, but I don't know what it is as I don't have the bow in hand...  

I'd like my arrow to be 31" long and I'd like the arrow to weigh at least 750 grains with heavier being better...  I'll either be shooting Magnus 1's at 135 gr., or 160 gr. Snuffers, of course the insert for either is up for debate but I'm leaning towards 100 gr. or 125 gr. steel and brass inserts.

Give me some "Recipes" that you think will work and I'll get to tinkering when it arrives.  Arrow in arrow combinations are OK.  I know the Grizzlystik Safari's would get me there weight wise, but would they shoot out of that weight bow?

Let me know what you all come up with...

Thanks, Jeff.

 

[Danny Rowan]

Holy moly Jeff, What the heck ya gonna shoot with that??? ove 100# OUCH, I hurt myself just thinking about it. Good luck.

Danny

[Paul Mattson]

The Grizzly Safari are rated for bows 55-100+ pounds.  They should work out great for you.

I havn't done up an arrow in arrow in sometime, I don't remember the combo I used.

[Bowhunter4life]

Danny: we've got some pretty mean jack rabbits here in OK.  

BadgerArrow: I'm really leaning that way myself, they are expensive but when you work out an arrow in arrow combination they are actually pretty competative.  I'd just like to know that they will work, but I guess no matter what arrow combo I go with they might not work and be a big ouch to the pocketbook...  I guess that is why I'm asking the question now to get some feedback from folks that might happen to have a similar combination.

[JC]

Carbon Tech Rhino Safari - 15gr/in, very stiff. Not sure what the spine is but I have a few and can measure them for you. As you said for the griz, expensive. I don't have anything that heavy, but I have yet to hurt one of these shafts in a 70@27 Morrison recurve...only shaft this bow has not crushed when you hit something immoveable. I have to shoot them full length with a 100gr brass insert and 200 gr head...I believe it was around 850gr. Even if you had to cut them shorter, the 8gr/in tubes sold @ 3 Rivers fit perfectly and would give you another weighting option if the spine is not enough to heavy front load. 23gr/in would make a heck of an arrow  

[Dr. Ed Ashby]

Jeff, when I began working on the Internal Footings I quickly discovered that they shorten the working section of the shaft, raising the dynamic spine. This would be an easy and benificial way to work up shafts for the ultra-heavy bows - though I'm getting too old to shoot any of my bows above 100# nowadays.

It would be worth making a phone call and talking to Ed Schlief about both the Safari shafts and Internal Footings. It's an excellent setup for the big bows.

Ed

[Mike Orton]

Jeff, I'm not sure if this will help you but as for arrow in arrow combination an Easton Jazz in size 1214 (cocktail straws that my 6 year olds shoot) fit perfectly inside of an Easton Axis 300 and a 3 inch section of Easton 2117 makes for a great exterior footing on the Easton Axis 300.  Add a 100 grain brass insert (you can even add two 100 grain inserts) and you should be in the 850 to 950 grain weight range. Also you'll be FoC by 15 to 18% with that combination.

[killinstuff]

You have great taste in bows. I have a 64# HSS that is the best bow I've ever shoot.  Have you thought about solid fibergrass fish arrows?

[jrchambers]

i would bet the safaris would work if you cut them a little shorter, Alaska bowhunting suply used to make a stiffer stick, i belive it was called the big five, he might have some left.

[Bowhunter4life]

Thanks all for your insights, have a lot of research to do!