Purpleheart - Thanks for mentioning Jacks name. Have not seen him in years. I had a osage/ceder longbow he built for me and a Hickory self bow he built for my son. Don't remember how long ago it was but the kid was about 3' tall then and now he's grown and moved on. A friend of mine had one of Jacks bows with clear glass and edge grain elm. Good shooting bows and he was a great guy. If I remember correctly, he was from Iowa.