I want-a jump in again too,BJ you are so right.I have both 1962 and 1964 Kodiaks I've harvested or killed whichever word you prefer elk,deer and black bears with them.I don't know which one I like best.They both did there jobs for me and did them well.I also got a 1959 Kodiak 64" 52#'s and a 1959 Grizzly 62" 55#'s.For about the quitest shooting bows ever built.You will never find one as quite as eather one of them 59K or 59 G,when well tuned and arrow weight to match.They will do magic tricks for you..There both fantasic shooters.And with out a dout,will hold thier own with any new bow manufactured today....and maybe better...ya gotta love em huh? bowdoc