INFO: Trad Archery for Bowhunters



Author Topic: Old Bear Recurve Question  (Read 1404 times)

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Old Bear Recurve Question
« on: May 18, 2008, 07:39:00 PM »
I have an old Fred Bear Polar recurve that belonged to my father. The markings that are hand written on the side near the grip are as follows

A
MX380
64"
47#

The length and weight I understand.

Can anyone tell me anything about this bow (year, where made). I sent an e-mail to Bear Archery but the guy who answered back couldn't tell me much.

Offline Jeremy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3242
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 08:22:00 PM »
Pics would help, but my money is on pre 1960.  If it has a bunch of deflex in the riser it's a '59 or '60.  If it's right OR left handed and no deflex it's a '57 or '58.  If it's right AND left handed it's a '55 or '56.

The Polars are a highly underated bow (based on fleabay prices anyway).  I love shooting mine (a '55, '58 and '59) and they'll all be in the woods with me when it's their turn  :)

I think they went to a 66" bow in '61, and a 'his' and 'hers' model in '62... nothing in 64" though.
>>>-TGMM Family Of The Bow-->
CT CE/FS Chief Instructor
"Death is not the greatest loss in life.  The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live." - Norman Cousins

Offline Jeremy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3242
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 08:24:00 PM »
While we're talking about Polars can someone shed some light on the '55-'58 Polars with the riser laid up like a Kodiak.  You know, with the purpleheart trimmings.  It seems all of those I've seen were marked at something other than 28", so are they the custom ordered ones?  I love to get my hands on a '57 laid up like that in 50#+  :D
>>>-TGMM Family Of The Bow-->
CT CE/FS Chief Instructor
"Death is not the greatest loss in life.  The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live." - Norman Cousins

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 10:48:00 PM »
I'm not real sure what you mean by "deflex". Can you explain? I'll get some pics for you guys

Thanks.

Offline Horney Toad

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1166
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 11:42:00 PM »
I think deflex is referring to some curvature in the limbs as opposed to straight limbs with curved tips.

Offline Jeremy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3242
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2008, 07:55:00 AM »
Here's what I mean by deflex
 
There's a curve toward the archer coming off the riser.  That's my '59 above.

Here's my '55:
 

There's just reflex coming off the riser - it's constantly bending away from the archer.  The '57-'58 has nearly the same profile as the '55-56, but is right or left handed as opposed to dual shelf.

Hope that helps.
>>>-TGMM Family Of The Bow-->
CT CE/FS Chief Instructor
"Death is not the greatest loss in life.  The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live." - Norman Cousins

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2008, 09:05:00 AM »
Jeremy,

Mine looks just like yours in the second pic. It bends away from the archer. The bow is right handed only.

I'll post some pics tomorrow.

Thanks

Offline Jeremy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3242
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2008, 09:47:00 AM »
A '57 or '58 then.  The difference between those two are pretty subtle and varies depending on the time of year they were built  :)   You've got the sow bellies and the rounded vs scalloped sight windows to tell 'em apart  ;)
>>>-TGMM Family Of The Bow-->
CT CE/FS Chief Instructor
"Death is not the greatest loss in life.  The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live." - Norman Cousins

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 07:25:00 AM »
Okay guys, I've got the pics but I can't figure out how to send them. How do I find my URL?

Offline TRAP

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 2747
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2008, 08:00:00 AM »
There is a tutorial in the PowWow section on posting pictures.  

I download pictures into Photobucket (free website) and then Copy the URL from there and Paste them here.

Trap
"If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less" Gen. Eric Shinsheki

"If you laugh, and you think, and you cry, that's a full day, that's a heck of a day." Jim Valvano.

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 08:49:00 AM »
Here are the pics of the bow. Let me know if you need anything else.

BTW: Thanks Trap.


 
 
 


Is the "1953" the patent date?
 

Offline Jeremy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3242
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 09:42:00 AM »
A 1957 Polar in really good shape!  The 1953 is the patent date.  I'll check the brace height on my '58 when I get home, but it should be somewhere around 6-1/2".
>>>-TGMM Family Of The Bow-->
CT CE/FS Chief Instructor
"Death is not the greatest loss in life.  The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live." - Norman Cousins

Offline Migra Bill

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 713
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 09:55:00 AM »
That is a very nice looking '57 Polar. According to the 1957 Bear catalogue it sold new for $32.50. Great find.

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 10:26:00 AM »
Thanks for all the help guys.

Jeremy, I've got the BH set at 7 1/2". I was  told by others it should be between 7" and 8 1/2". Please check it for me and let me know.

Offline Jeremy

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3242
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2008, 10:49:00 AM »
That's definitely too high!  Until '59 all the Bears were still using the old 'fistmele' brace heights, in the 6-7" range depending on bow length.  The old Bears more closely resemble selfbows than the new highly deflexed recurves in that regard.
Even the 64+" 1959 Kodiak Specials are only supposed to have a 7-8" brace height according to the catalog.

Drop the brace down an 1-1/2" little at a time and you'll find that it'll get noisier, then quieter, then noisy again.  The sweet spot should be somewhere in the 6-3/8" to 6-5/8" range if I'm remember correctly (for both my 55 and 58).  You'll pick up 5+ fps over bracing at 7-1/2" as well.  :)
>>>-TGMM Family Of The Bow-->
CT CE/FS Chief Instructor
"Death is not the greatest loss in life.  The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live." - Norman Cousins

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2008, 10:53:00 AM »
Thanks, I'll work on it today.

Offline billy shipp

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1159
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2008, 05:21:00 PM »
I just wonder how many Bear bows from the 50's are still shot on a regular basis?

Offline Dutch152

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 19
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2008, 08:09:00 PM »
I was wondering the same thing. I shoot mine almost everyday and plan to hunt with it this year.

Offline Takedown

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 185
Re: Old Bear Recurve Question
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2008, 09:47:00 AM »
Hi Dutch152, (and all!)
I have a '59 polar too, 64", 49#. Shoots great, and I agree, very underrated bows. I also shoot and hunt with a 1952-53 Kodiak K-4, static tipped,
(non-alum lam!) at 53# @28". Great bow, suprisingly fast! Just got a new Bear tape on quiver I will use on it.
 
I am addicted to all things vintage, it is really nice to be able to collect and use this neat old equipment! I dont feel handicapped at all with this gear.

Harry.

Users currently browsing this topic:

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
 

Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement

Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©