I have been to the Bear ID site and left there more confused and with a headache. Seems Bears plan was "Just put a number on it".
First is a Kodiak Magnum, it is Green with the blue stripe, the Bear coin is either alunimum or pewter, the SN# is KU24158
Second is a Grizzly, some sort of wood, Bear coin is again either alunimum or pewter, SN# KR91717
Thanks so much. I know there are Bear experts here who have figured out that whole SN thing.
Seems easier to learn Chinese.