BEAR Razorhead questions......

[jcar315]

Not to be too dumb here but I am in the process of sharpening up some Bear Razorheads and have a few questions:

When using the bleeders what is the best way to mount these? I am sharpening up some right now and in putting them on the shafts I can't quite noodle through how to get them on a full tapered shaft with the bleeders installed.

Do you use a "shorter" taper on the shaft?
Do you cut some sort of slot in the shaft?

Guys any help would be greatly appreciated as I would very much like to mount these on some Bear arrows and take these with me this season.

Thanks for your help.

[reddogge]

John,
Uninstall the bleeders first, install the heads on the shafts and then use the spring steel tool that comes with the bleeders to open up the slot clearing out a little wood to allow you to mount the bleeders again.  That is providing you are using wood shafts.

[jcar315]

Do I force the tool through the wood taper or do I make the taper smaller to begin with?

yes, wood shafts.

[PAPALAPIN]

I would cut off enough of the taper so the bleeder blade clears the end.  The slot cleaning tool is to clean out glue residue...not wood.

[Grant Young]

What Jack said.  Grant

[cornfed]

Either way works.A copeing saw works good to cut the slot if you go that route but remember grain orientation when you do.Otherwise just cut or grind the taper short.I've taken hundred of those heads off of old arrows and have seen both.Seems like the older ones had the slot and the ones from the 60-70's where cut short.

[jcar315]

You guys are the BEST!! Thanks for helping me out.  John

[Novaln1975]

I could imagine that a slot, if not to wide, would secure the bleeder blade a little. The bleeder blades can rattle and make noise when in a bow quiver. I just got a 4 arrow quiver and got a buzzing sound when I first shot an arrow and realized it was the bleeder blades. They wont fall off, they just rattle. I put a drop of glue and fixed my problem.

Simon

[Brent Hill]

I use my wife's finger nail polish to stop the rattle.  Dab a bit were the bleeder and ferrel meet.  Bhill

[Hud]

The bleeder can be pulled back into the slot with pliers, or pushed into a scrap of wood. In any event the back of the ferrule has a slot on both sides for the bleeder and a tighter fit.

If you use wood shafts, and mount your nocks, perpendicular to the grain in the wood (wood grain is then horizontal) when the arrow is nocked and your heads are vertical, the bleeder & slot is then in the same direction as the grain. It is then easier to clean the slot with the tool. Best to do this work on dull heads or be careful. I suggest using pliers to install or remove the bleeder.

[TRAP]

Hmmmm...

Guys. I've never had an auxillary blade rattle when it is seated down all the way and installed correctly.  They are actually pretty snug on the side of the ferrule and kinda snap into the the little notches.

Make sure you're getting them down far enough by cleaning the bottom of the broadhead slot, and either removing enough off of the end of the shaft or cutting a long enough slot in the end of the shaft.

One issue you'll have with a 4 arrow leathertop quiver and Bear Razorheads is space.  The arrows have to be positioned precisely to keep the auxillary blades from touching another broadhead or the quiver's metal hood.  Both cause ugly noises.  They will fit if they are all turned just right.

Trap

[reddogge]

I used to have the opposite problem that the bleeders fit so tightly they warped a little.