I doubt that the newer Gainesville models are that bad as shooters. I have owned a Green Stripe or two and they were actually pretty nice bows. I prefer the looks of the wood in the earlier models but the '80 and '82 models I had shot as well. I never thought anything made beyond '73 or so had the aesthetic appeal as the older models but I could never find much difference from a performance perspective. I even reshaped my Grayling bows to suit me so I'm obviously not overly enamored of "original" condition. I would agree that the quality of the finish and end shaping of the newer Kodiak models I've seen was disapointing but they seemed to work okay. "Good", "better", and "best" are subjective value judgements- I've seen first effort self bows do a fine job in the right hands. I've "souped up" my old Grayling bows a little and actually don't care for the StyleI in its original form- bulky and slow- and don't care for the extreme "S" shape of the styleII risers. Feel-wise, the Green stripe feels better to me than either. If I had only $300.00 to $400.00 to spend the new Bears would be ones to consider, imo. Grant