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Offline jrchambers

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arow decorations
« on: December 20, 2007, 02:53:00 PM »
i was wondering if anyone has done wraps on their arows with thread like you would a fly rod blank i know how to do some really neat patterns with thread. i know that it would probably have to be a tapperd shaft and i think that the epoxy could be put on thin enough if the thread was small.  im not shure how much extra weight it would ad to the nock end but i think a nice chevron or double diamond would be awful cool.

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 05:11:00 PM »
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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 07:32:00 PM »
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Offline JBiorn

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 08:49:00 PM »
I dunno---but I would love to see what you have in mind!

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 08:55:00 PM »
i havnt done it yet but it would look like some fancy flyrod wraping just above the cork, the only thing is that it would have to be epoxyed over the the threads and then fletched over that.  i like the idea of all the fine detail and color combos that cant be done with paint.  my brother has a couple patterns he does with salmon and some other critters. they really are some amazing weaves.

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 08:55:00 PM »
I've done it.  Double diamonds with Gudebrod A metallic thread.  Looked really cool, but took a few coats of epoxy to get it smooth like the rest of the shaft, and that added a bit of weight to the rear.  Also took me entirely too long to do for a dozen.  I did one and gave up on it.  My shaft was a parallel carbon - no taper.  Worked just fine.  Most of my rod-wrapping experience with butt wraps is on saltwater rods, so I was used to working with a fairly parallel portion of material.
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Offline Grey Taylor

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 09:48:00 PM »
I've done it.  Before I got a cresting jig this was my primary source of decoration on arrows.  I figured that my rod wrapping jig would work just fine and it did.
Here is a sample of what I did, no diamonds, just simple thread art with metallic thread.

 

For finish I put on a single coat of thread preserver and then used gasket lacquer as normal on the whole arrow.  With this wrap the thread never built up like it would on a diamond and it was not an issue.

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Offline Grey Taylor

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 09:57:00 PM »
Here's another sample...

 

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Offline Ramsey

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 11:28:00 PM »
These are great ideas on personalizing an arrow,
 I'm new to tradition hunting and try to find as
many good and informative ideas as I can thanx

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2007, 11:31:00 PM »
Guy,
Very nice work!  I like the cut of your feathers too.  Very sharp looking - especially those red and black ones.  That's one of my favorite combos.
All the best,
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Offline warden415

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2007, 11:33:00 PM »
Those arrows look really impressive! Two thumbs up!!!!
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Offline Grey Taylor

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2007, 12:58:00 AM »
Thanks, gentlemen, I really appreciate that.
Glenn, I also used Gudebrod A thread.  Larger size would build the pattern quicker but wouldn't give as fine a look.  I have a lot of people ask me how I painted the design.  I figured if they mistook thread for paint then I was doing it right.
The fletching on the red/black arrows is the Raptor cut.  Those arrows were for a bow with no shelf so we wanted the front of the feather wrapped to keep the quill out of the archer's hand.  On the Raptor I can trip a little bit of the leading edge of the feather off the quill to leave room for thread and it won't change the profile of the fletch significantly.

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2007, 01:17:00 AM »
Real nice!! I've thought about doing that, now I have a better idea of what kind of thread to use.  Thanks for the point in the right direction.
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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2007, 10:26:00 AM »
wow...is there dvd teaching this??? or book..?
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Offline Deadsmple

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2007, 10:32:00 AM »
Advanced Custom Rod Building by Dale P. Clemens is an excellent book to learn that kind of thread art.
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Offline Lone archer

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2007, 07:35:00 PM »
What about wrapping that thread around the shaft behind the point to add more strenght and weight(FOC)!

Offline jrchambers

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2007, 07:40:00 PM »
i bet it would be like a midgrade footing, im shure it wouldnt hurt anything.  there are even some patterns in my video that look like crown wood footings.  full butt patterns would take alot of time but it would make some cool unique shafts.

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Re: arow decorations
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2007, 07:51:00 PM »
No kidding! Excellent work, Guy, in a field that I have noticed here and there but know nothing about. Thanks for a few tidbits to wrap my brain around.

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