Hoyt Gamemaster and Dorado

[bluejay]

Hi Folks,
         I intend to buy my first take down and my first thougt was for a Hoyt Gamemaster 45#.
Now I see there is also another model called Dorado.
Could some of you please tell me what are the differences between the two bows ?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers
Bluejay

[Scott E]

The Dorado is for a more instinctive style of shooting. Because it doesn't have the tech riser you can cant the bow better. The Gamemaster is better for holding the bow straight up and down. I have a gamemaster and like it alot. But I'm thinkin about gettin the dorado. Also if youre draw length is over 29 inches I would suggest getting the 64" version because at my 31" draw the 62" stacks pretty bad. They are sweet bows and they come with a cool case. If you go to the hoyt web site hoyt.com there is more info.-Scott

[jeff w]

Just out of curiousity,  why would the tech riser of the GM prevent, or hinder, a person from shooting instinctively?  I had one and can not say it made a difference in canting the bow and shooting instinctive.

Also, neither the GM II or Dorado come in a 64" version.   The GM II is 62" and the Dorado is 60".   To achieve a 64" bow you will need to buy different ILF limbs and swap out the bushings to make the limbs fit the risers.........

[Doug in MI]

I bouhgt a Gamemaster a couple years ago. Its a nice shooting bow but took a little bit of experimenting to get it quiet. Also the limbs on the original Gamemasters were a little more weight than they were marked. I think a Gamemaster would make a great first bow. I realy like the grip on mine. But if your going to buy new you might want to look at a few other bows before you buy. You could get into a basic Bob Lee for about the same money and probably a few other brands if you go with a basic package. If you buy used you can save alot. Just post a wanted to buy on here in the Classifieds and see what you get. Good luck.

[bayoulongbowman]

I sell sell them at my store and there not bad bows . They are all built for 28 inch draw, they dont really stack ...but if ya draw more than 28 you feel it...ya got put whiskers to quiet them down ...I like the camo , too. its under 500 bucks...not bad....I like the 62 inch limbs.. :)PS it comes with calf hair rest and  shelf plate they could of provided a better one .In right hand or  LEFTY! Merry Christmas....

[KodiakBob]

Unless you have a short draw go with the GMII. A sleeper bow. Fast, smooth, can be shot off the shelf or with a rest and plunger. My 45@28 GMII shoots full length GT XTs at over 200 fps.

[bjohnson]

mine shoots great.. shoots 169 with 600 grain arrows and is silent.. states 60@28 but is actually 65@28. I shoot 25.5" and love shooting it. I guess I will never notice the stack...lol

[Scott E]

Jeff in the dealer catalog there are the "long" GMII limbs which will make the bow 64". The only reason I know this is i work at a hoyt pro shop and almost bought the limbs in 40#. The tech riser rubs againts my wrist when I cant the bow. If you hold the bow a little differnt then I it might not happen. Hoyt makes a good bow but like some other people said before quieting the bow took a little messing with the brace height.-Scott

[jeff w]

I would think Hoyt would advertise the fact that they have long GM II limbs.   I would definately buy some.

[bluejay]

Thanks for your replies.

I think I will stick to the Gamemaster 45#
For the records, I am oriented towards a take-down bow and specifically the GM because this would allow me to get additional (read...stronger) pair of limbs if needed in the future.

What kind of arrows would you suggest?

Also, I intend to start with a rest. Any advice on a good and simple one?

I come from a compound and thus I am in need of tons of advices to get started the proper way....so do not hesitate   :D  

Apologies for my many questions but I am sure I will get all the answers I need in here.    

Merry Xmas
Bluejay

[KodiakBob]

A good rest is a Cavalier 300 and a Cavalier plunger. You will also want a hi-tech string mine has a 450+. Gold Tips work and I also can shoot X7 2114s. Since you are from Italy you probably can sub a Spig. rest and plunger

[bjohnson]

I shoot a b50 flemish string and I also shoot off the shelf just build it up a little.. also shooting carbon express 150 shafts 50gr brass insert and 190 gr simmons head.

[BD]

The GM is an outstanding bow. I have owned and handful of custom, expensive bows and the GM shoots and performs with the best of them.

BCD

[MikeC]

Go with a rest and plunger combo and get the most of it.

[Jaeger]

The Gamemaster is an excellent bow. I have heard that the newer models have some noticeable improvements to their limbs.

You should also check out the Quinn bows. They have one of the best grips in the business (entirely subjective) and their limbs are second to none. I've owned a Gamemaster and a DAS. Both nice bows but they are both gone. I still have my Quinn Stallion. That's my "cold dead hands" bow. The price is right too.

 http://www.quinnsarchery.com/quinn\\'s_archery_001.htm

[bluejay]

Originally posted by MikeC:
Go with a rest and plunger combo and get the most of it.

Which rest and plunger would you Guys suggest to be mounted on the GM ?

I'd like to shoot XX78 and 100 grs. Muzzy

Thnx
Bluejay   :D

[Tom A]

Bluejay It all depends on what you want to do. Some plungers are  longer than others and may make it difficult to put a bow quiver on but will give more adjustability to center shot. My favorite is the Spigarelli click plunger because it has a finger twist screw for adjusting instead of using a Allen wrench. Das makes a short plunger but I am not sure if it will be long enough to work on a game master. Maybe somebody will know. As for arrow rest. The Kap magnetic flipper rest is the best buy for the buck.

Also if hunting you may have issues with noise when drawing if using a flipper rest. You can put plastic tubing over the arms. A simple rubber stick on rest with a plunger is a good quiet and durable combo too.

[bluejay]

Thanks Tom for your quick reply.

As I said before, I come from a compound and finger release and thus I know Jack about recurves (so take my statements with "pliers"   :D  )

The set up I would like to get figured out it is as follows:

Hoyt Gamemaster take down RH 45# Black
XX78 Easton arrows
100 grs. Muzzy broadheads
Back quiver (so NO QUIVER on the bow)
Simple arrow rest
Glove or tab ? (I used to shoot my compound with a tab but for a recurve I'd be more oriented towards a good glove).

Please feel free to give me your suggestions, since I am new to trad archery.

Thanks
Bluejay  

[Tom A]

Bluejay if this is your first recurve I would suggest going even lighter to atleast 40#. I have heard people say that the game master is usually a few pounds heavier than marked.  For arrows it is hard to give suggestions without exact draw length.  These charts are pretty good to start from.  

 http://www.arrowsbykelly.com/Spine_Charts.html

[jeff w]

Bluejay,   I would agree with Tom on possibly going a little lighter.   The GM I had pulled @4#'s more than marked.   Also, if you get 40# limbs and decide you want something stronger, I don't believe you would any trouble selling them.  I see many more people looking to trade/sell heavier limbs for lighter limbs, than those wanting heavier.   Good luck.