How much vertical movement for "jumping the string?"

[GroundHunter]

No limit. To direction, distance or speed, other than the phyiscal capabilities of a wild animal in filght mode. Ive seen 'em go in three directions at once.

One broadside doe spun completly around and took the arrow in the chest, front-on.

Once had two deer swap places, and I killed a buck instead of a doe. Not one behind the other. clear shot at the doe. she pooked toward the buck, and the buck took her spot.

One reason to keep watching 'till the arrow hits is to see just how much action there is, and have an explanation why you missed.

Folks often won't belive you, even though it happenned like you said.

[kennym]

"I’ve shot prolly 15 to 20 deer like that, anyone else have the same reaction? "

Fishkiller,good results till this year,he dropped far enough for a clean miss,I'm with Mr. Swann on this now,wait or shoot walking.

[kennym]

Oh yeah,the oiginal ?- there ain't no way of predicting reaction of any animal to a bow shot!

[wifishkiller]

WWhen you guys stop them are you at full draw or do you stop them then draw?  Ive always drawn first then mad the noise.

[kennym]

Drew,then voicegrunted,even had 2 little bucks out there to distract him,18 yds,fastest reaction from a calm deer I've ever seen!

[Wudstix]

My bow is so slow I try to slip into the woods late the night before, release an arrow were I think a deer will walk at first light, so I can make a quick clean kill.  Then I sneak in at about 9 o'clock and start tracking.

[Jerry Jeffer]

TexasBubba, I am with you. Y'all must think you are some kind'a Wizards.

[Swanny in MD]

WFkiller...this was back during the righty only days which was draw and shoot in one motion..no stopping at anchor, but very little movement to say the least..bow held out before the grunt.  

I guess I shouldn't have said 'unpredictable'...gives the wrong impression.  There definitely is predictability in what deer do in my area, but to what extent and frequency are the qualifiers.  

Usually I aim right at the front leg pocket which is below the heart and do well with the resulting double lung and 40 some yard average recovery. If they're right underneath my tree out to 4 or 5 yards I aim dead on since I'm up so high..the drop isn't as radical from this perspective.

Just last month I was in a barn loft and shot through a hole in the wall at a doe that was around 19 yards out... was trying Rusty Craine's string walking for my first time..put broadhead right on where I wanted to hit...and hit the heart.  Deer in this particular area (suburbs) are very calm and haven't been hunted for two or three years, plus the barn walls kept alot of the sound inside for sure.  Was a guessing game like always.

Took 72 doe in a four year period a while back with the longbow and I'm still figuring out the guessing game with lots of surprises along the way.  That's part of what makes the challenge.  

[Naphtali]

I believe part of our miscommunication is my not being clearer.

1. Deer/elk is unaware of the hunter 25 yards away. This does not mean the animal is deaf, dumb, and blind -- they're always somewhat attentive to their surroundings; they're prey species.
2. Hunter shoots arrow with noisy bow.
3. Noise alerts deer.
4. Deer bunches to flee.

A. How much time elapses on average, if such an "average" is possible to obtain?

B. How much vertical movement downward occurs during "A." if such movement can be reliably measured?
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The elapsed time of "A." is, I think, the equivalent of a pheasant hanging motionless during its reorienting flight to horizontal. Not because the animal is motionless, but because the motion may be predictable?? If you know where the thorax will be when your arrow arrives at distance, that may be an improvement over relying on a quiet bow.

The quiet bow may or may not be quiet enough. A noisy bow you can count on to be noisy.

Since I do not know if there are too many variables to work with, I'm asking for assistance and guidance.

Most worrisome thing for me is that data will show the concept has merit, but my arrow is too slow. . . . Such is life.

[Bjorn]

Wudsticks and Texasbubba get my vote for the funniest! Keep 'em coming guys.

[katman]

I think the pure downward drop would be at the speed of gravities pull, 32ft/sec I think, been a long time since physics. How much the deer would drop would depend on the deers reaction time to the shot. Of course the state of the deer at release would influence this. As stated earlier the deer can move more than straight down. I once hit a doe in the right shoulder, I was aiming at her left side, she was facing to my left broadside but tense at 20 yards.
I don't think any predictable amount of drop/turn can be calculated, agreeing with DTala.

[Guru]

Listen to Troy!!!

[vermonster13]

Why try to change a formula that works? Quiet bow, sharp broadhead, relaxed animal= full freezer

[DarkeGreen]

Originally posted by DTala:
Darke, yer own post suggests that there is no way to predict noise induced movement to be able to take advantage of it in the ACTUAL shooting of LIVE animals in the FIELD. The research may be interesting but has no application to actual hunting.

That is exactly the point I was trying to make. Sorry if it was unclear. I would find the data interseting but also believe it wouldn't do bow hunters any good in the field.