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Offline dan d

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Re: Michigan-Antler Point Restrictions Pass
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2013, 11:09:00 PM »
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The DNR has a near impossible task. They will never make everyone happy.

Not only that, Michigan deer habitat is very diverse. The northern UP may as well be Canada. When settlers came, there were still woodland caribou in the UP. Yet, southern Michigan may as well be Ohio or Illinois, with rich farmland. Making statewide rules is very difficult.

The gun only hunters think bowhunters ruin their hunt, some think the youth hunt in September ruins rifle hunting in November, farmers claim hunters won't kill enough deer, hunters "up north" claim hunters kill too many deer, hunters that don't want any buck rules want the freedom to shoot whatever antlered buck they see, while others want to see more 2 year old plus bucks in the woods.
Then you have those who want to hunt over bait and then those who claim bait alters natural deer movements and makes deer nocturnal. You have those who claim archery season is too long, yet others claim neighboring states have bow seasons that are nearly 2 months longer. You have those who claim muzzleloader season is too long and should be no inlines allowed, yet 95% of ML hunters hunters already own inlines.

Then you have 100,000 reported deer/auto accidents a year in Michigan. That's only those that are reported. Don't forget bovine TB and the cattle and dairy industry or CWD.

In a way, we're lucky deer hunting rules are as lax as they are.
Well said Mojostick, I myself hope that law finds it's way to the "thumb" of Michigan. We are so overpopulated with does in the mostly farm area here. That was the whole reason I came back to traditional archery after a 30 year leave is because I miss the challenge of hunting. It was way to easy to shot a year & a half old buck or doe so I made it a challenge now & am very satisfied taking a doe with traditional gear. I was not getting any satisfaction shooting a 4 point buck with modern equipment.

Now I don't bait either as I enjoy the hunt part of hunting, shooting animals at the food trough is not hunting to me, it is not that challenging figuring out where the deer beds are or the routes they are taking to and from food sources.

But I also welcome the law as I do enjoy the 2 week non-traditional season, especially if I don't succeed during the bow season. If that law comes here maybe I will have the opportunity for something other than a year & a half old buck as a doe taste just as good.

The way I hunt that rule would be the best of both worlds, I could go for a doe the hard way (with trad gear & a doe is a trophy to me) but yet I could trophy buck hunt for 2 weeks in november.

I agree it is very hard to please everybody & I try to not complain about the non-traditional crowd or the shot em at the food trough crowd. I must admit so far we are all happily living together at least in this part of the state, so I guess I have to say the DNR is doing ok, I do wish we could have a few more officers though to keep the rules enforced..

Dan
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Re: Michigan-Antler Point Restrictions Pass
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2013, 09:59:00 AM »
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Well said Mojostick, I myself hope that law finds it's way to the "thumb" of Michigan. We are so overpopulated with does in the mostly farm area here. That was the whole reason I came back to traditional archery after a 30 year leave is because I miss the challenge of hunting. It was way to easy to shot a year & a half old buck or doe so I made it a challenge now & am very satisfied taking a doe with traditional gear. I was not getting any satisfaction shooting a 4 point buck with modern equipment.

Now I don't bait either as I enjoy the hunt part of hunting, shooting animals at the food trough is not hunting to me, it is not that challenging figuring out where the deer beds are or the routes they are taking to and from food sources.

But I also welcome the law as I do enjoy the 2 week non-traditional season, especially if I don't succeed during the bow season. If that law comes here maybe I will have the opportunity for something other than a year & a half old buck as a doe taste just as good.

The way I hunt that rule would be the best of both worlds, I could go for a doe the hard way (with trad gear & a doe is a trophy to me) but yet I could trophy buck hunt for 2 weeks in november.

I agree it is very hard to please everybody & I try to not complain about the non-traditional crowd or the shot em at the food trough crowd. I must admit so far we are all happily living together at least in this part of the state, so I guess I have to say the DNR is doing ok, I do wish we could have a few more officers though to keep the rules enforced..

Dan [/QB]
Dan, I came to traditional archery for the same reason. We had extremely liberal tags in my area and filling a couple antlerless tags with a compound became like mowing the lawn. There was zero challenge and little excitement left in killing a doe with a modern compound. So, I made the switch to trad gear.

In that same mindset, for more and more hunters, killing a yearling buck is as easy as killing a button buck fawn. It's for this reason that more hunters want more mature bucks to hunt.

It's a little like how little league'ers want to up their game and move up into the next league.

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Re: Michigan-Antler Point Restrictions Pass
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2013, 09:44:00 AM »
Hopefully one day the mentality of the vast majority will re-set itself to what you posted above Mojo.It is a small challenge to hunt archery deer from a treestand shooting them 50yards out,with a modern compound IMO. Those who do..Oh well I guess. At least they are hunting,instead of anti-hunting. I made the switch for the same reasons myself. I have missed a couple oppurtunitys at nice big Michigan bucks because of the choice I made. And I don't regret it,honest. It's going to take a lot of variables for Michigan to play catch-up to get mature bucks. I have a lot of ideas I would love to see implemented,but My fingers are crossed,hopefully this is the beginning of a great change in our Great Lake State.  rat'
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