Author Topic: how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?  (Read 712 times)

Offline ghost rob

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how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?
« on: May 15, 2009, 07:05:00 PM »
I have a sweet shooting 50's style recurve and I'd like to use the limb design to make a three-pc takedown. Do I trace the bow on paper then draw in the take-down riser to get the angle for the limb pads? And with regards to the limb wedges, do I use standard wedges from Binghams or do these have to be figured out too?(which is kinda what I'm thinking). Anyways I'm sure someone out there has done this before and I'm hoping they'll chime in. Thanks in advance, Rob

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Re: how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 06:07:00 PM »
anyone?

Offline Pennsyltuckey pete

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Re: how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 10:35:00 PM »
I have made 3 pc take downs, longbows, recurves and a hybrid longbows.  I have also designed two different bows.  One a recurve and the other a hybrid long bow.  For the two that I designed I pulled the parts of different bows that I liked and put it on paper. One of the bows was a take down that I wanted to use as the base for a one piece. This sounds similar, just opposite of what you want to do.

I would suggest that you follow your gut instinct of tracing the bow on paper and starting there.  You will need to keep the geometry  of the bow as close to the original as you can. Determine how you want to join the limbs to the riser and then design the limbs and riser accordingly.  You will need to measure the limbs on your existing bow to determine the taper over the length of the limb.  You will also have to calculate the butt thickness of the laminations.  To do this I measured the limbs with calipers at three locations to determine the rate of taper.  I then measured the thickness at the fade and then added the .002/inch for the length to the center of the bow. These measurements were taken numerous times to get an average because I was measuring individual pieces of wood in a completed limb that I was not willing to dissect. Realize that you will probably have to make a couple of the bows to get to your target weight.  To keep the cost of development down I built my own lam grinder (Cost less than $100) and made my own laminations out of a local hardwood (Ash)  I also made the riser out of inexpensive woods.  It took me two of each bow to be able to accurately calculate thickness for bows from 30# to 60#.   As far as the wedge, make one that follows the geometry of the bow you are copying.  I wish you success in your endeavors.   Failure is only achieved by not trying.

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Re: how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 12:22:00 PM »
Your post sounded like you already knew the answers but were looking for confirmation. I think Pete pretty well did that. There is no set formula to making something similar to something you like but changing it to make it your own, only basic guidelines.
  Pete has the plan right to try things without breaking the bank until you figure out the right recipe....cheap materials that wont make you cringe when you have to toss em in the fire! lol
   You anywhere near me? I'd give you a hand if you want.
    Don

Offline ghost rob

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Re: how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 05:09:00 PM »
Thanks Pete, You kinda put done in words what I was thinking. You're right about not trying being the true failure.     Don thanks for your input too. I'm south of Syracuse about 50 miles. Whitney Point area. Thanks guys I'm gonna get started this weekend. Rob

Offline Pennsyltuckey pete

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Re: how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 11:12:00 PM »
Good Luck and make sure that you keep a journal of all measurements that you take, what dimensions of wood and type that you choose.  Each piece will have its own affect on the final outcome.  I am amazed at how much I refer to my journal.

pete
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Re: how to design a three-pc from a one pc bow?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2009, 12:13:00 PM »
I've been itching to make a trip to Garcia's in Cortland. I'll give you a shout and see how you're makin out when I do. My dad always used to say....A poor excuse for a ride (motorcycle) is better than none. lol

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