Hand shock

[Dano]

Good point Blaine,  there are many factors to this issue, that's what makes a great bowyer worth his salt.

[dutchwarbow]

bglass:

long bows, much bend at the handle. BAD RECIPE!

bendy fades are great for shorter bows, but they cause handshock in longer bows. Just like yours shows    Cut er down by a few inches and narrow those outterlimbs...

Hermann;

light arrows will cause hanshock on bows not designed for them. They won't make an 100# flightbow kick, but you can be sure that they make a normal 100# warbow break your knuckles  

the outterlimbs should match the arrow. For the flightbow they will be scarily narrow, for a warbow pretty heavy though.

BMgarto,

In my opinion a big hanle doesn't reduce the actual handshock. It's just more of a damps (?) it. Just like a kick will make a football fly but it won't even make the lead ball roll... even if the kick is just as hard. It might reduce the practical handshock, but not the technical hanshock. Still following me?

You should shoot my warbows with a heavy and light arrow. You'll notice heavy arrows reduce the handshock. They just suck all the energy out of the limbs. you just need big bows to get a clear difference. Well, I got them and it's very clear. But just do the math, and you'll agree with me.

the scientific problem is the % of handshock/ stored energy. It's a loss of power. deflex only causes the bow to store less energy and thus it will kick less... but a reflexed limb that stores the same amount of energy won't kick more. Just as a big handle won't reduce it.

I guess we could discuss padded grips here aswell, as they should practically reduce the handshock too. Same effect as a big handle.

just as we could discuss the drawweight. As a lighter bow kicks less (stores less energy, looses less energy)

but that's not what we want, right?

Nick

[Stagmitis]

Couple more things....

I cant beleive how many bows I see with the string NOT tracking through the center of the limbs/handle....That will do it...

The other is shooter error...Some archers simply hold the bow inapropriately and scream handshock. Hill bows with straight but improperly built handles are good candidates for this...

[bmgarto]

Dutchwarbow

Your points about arrows and riser weight make sense. It just dampens the shock that is there and the heavy arrows uses more of the energy that would otherwise be sent to your hand.

On the R/D part, what if we compare a straight bow and and R/D bow that has the same efficiency and shooting the same arrow at the same speed, are you saying we would have the same amount of shock? That the Reflex is just countering the extra cast of the reflex?

[dutchwarbow]

stagmitis, I have many bows with strings way offcenter... some of them are the most smooth shooting bows around. Why would a bad stringtracking cause handshock!?

and what can you do to cause massive handshock? as an archer? please explain.

Improperly built handles cause hanshock? come on...

 guess a bad finsih, a bad made mosaic strip in the handle, and scratches in the limbs cause handshock aswell?

bmgarto.

if the R/d has the same physical weight, front profile, and stored energy, yes, it should have the same handshock  

Nick