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VinnieB
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is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 02:46:00 PM »
i shoot a 50 pound at 26 inch fred bear montana longbow with 2013 xx75 and 100 grain broadheads.
is this adequate for whitetail deer
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Arwin
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 02:56:00 PM »
I had close to the same set-up in 2006. I was using 2013's with a 160 grain head from a bow that was 49# at my 27 1/2 inch draw. I killed 2 deer with that combo, one of which was a doe that I shot between the neck and shoulder. I got the arrow to pass through her chest and she died within 40 yds.
I think most in here would say putting it in the right spot is the most important thing, but I would be tempted to say maybe go with a heavier head.
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jon
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 03:23:00 PM »
You are under 8gr/pound of draw weight. Most bow makers will void the warranty at that level. omething to keep in mind. Personally, I would try for mid 400gr's for whitetails.
Jon
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Tim Schoenborn
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 03:24:00 PM »
I agree with Arwin.......
Bump the head weight. I am a guy who shoots on the bottom end also staying in the 8 grain per pound area, but your light with this set up IMHO.
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Rico
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 03:51:00 PM »
A lot of people say that 45# is plenty I would want more but a 45# x 8gn = 360gn or 8gn per #
Your 50# is only going to throw it faster but it will weigh the same.
You can kill deer with it and lighter
I don't think you will be getting the max efficeny from your bow and it puts more stress on your bow with the lighter arrow.
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Shawn Leonard
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 04:50:00 PM »
Get it up to around 400 grains and you will be OK. but less than 8gpp. could hurt your bow over time. shawn
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 04:58:00 PM »
I agree with shawn, even goin up to 450g wont slow your bow down that bad, may lose 2-4fps, so thats no big sacrifice
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Fletcher
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 05:20:00 PM »
It wouldn't be enuf for me.
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 06:11:00 PM »
I would be shooting more then that at that draw weight. 10-11 grains per/pound.
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Bjorn
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 10, 2008, 07:57:00 PM »
After some mixed results; 12 gpp with a sharp 2 blade works best for me; but to each his own-right?
Some like light others heavy-find what's best for you.
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NorthShoreLB
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 05:07:00 AM »
You might kill something, but your bow must be really loud, ...that's never good for hunting.
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Danny Rowan
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 05:22:00 AM »
LOL, I shoot two times that at least!
Danny
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James Wrenn
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 08:32:00 AM »
I shot two deer with 380gn arrows.They worked but I went back to heavier arrows.The bow was noisy and deer had more reaction than they should have at the shots.I also believe if you use light arrows even if they are traveling fast you need to stick with small broadheads.Witout getting in the whole momentum verses energy thing I think heavy arrows with big broadheads are much better than light weight arrows with big broadheads.:)I personally think arrows in the 450 to 500gn range are about perfect for the things I hunt reguardless of the weight of the bow I am useing.With these arrow weights I can get good constante results for my slow or faster bows. jmo
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Horne Shooter
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 09:06:00 AM »
Vinnie,
Probably will work but there really isn't any reason to go that light. I assume most of your shots are under 20 so your bow will still hit almost the same as it does now -even if you go 10 grains or more per pound of draw. The arrow will penetrate better and your bow will be quieter. Not much benefit I can see going this light....just my .02....
Paul
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VinnieB
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 02:58:00 PM »
thanks guys. i don't really like the light arrows myself, but they were the only thing i could every get to tune. i can get their weight up to 400 grains with 125 grain tips
i guess i could try 2016's with a 150, i just hate to start the whole tuning process all over again
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Rico
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 05:14:00 PM »
VB if they're shooting great for ya I wouldn't worry about 20grs thats really not that much a penny weighs 40grs.
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blueslfb
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 06:28:00 PM »
Vinnie you can also try a 1916 w/150 heads. I shoot 1916 out of my lighter weight bows and they fly like darts. They also weigh just about the same as the 2016.
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GameGetter
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 11:23:00 PM »
If your arrows are long enough, cut them down an inch and you can then go with a 125 or maybe even a 150gr. head.
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bdog
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Re: is 380 grains enough
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February 11, 2008, 11:40:00 PM »
I'm shooting 2013's, 27.5"long with 125gr.heads out of my bows drawing 46#@26"my arrows weigh in around 432gr. and they work great .
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