I dont know how much Im looking for? Never tried it before. Maybe I need to not be afraid of bending it more and just push it down hard and clamp it. Its only $8 worth of red oak and hickory, if it breaks...it breaks. If you have rough recommendations on reflex and deflex, I will try them tonite when I get home. My red oak core is 1/2 thick and my hickory backing is 1/8 thick, 1.5 wide x 68 long.